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Old September 3rd, 2005, 07:03 AM   #101
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yeah um sure whatever!
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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:10 AM   #102
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Considering the fact that china is a third world nation, these highways are better than most. And they will be busy soon (once chinese learn the idea of travelling by car).
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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:15 AM   #103
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This is in Shanghai. What is it?







what the hell is that???
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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:18 AM   #104
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Too bad drivers in China don't know what those lines on the road are for...

... Yeah, you Chinese forumers know EXACTLY what I'm talking about!
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Old September 13th, 2005, 06:22 AM   #105
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lol, sooooo true. Also..

ALL THOSE ROADS ARE EMPTY!!!!!!!!!!
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Old September 15th, 2005, 09:54 PM   #106
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impresive, just keep building it..! i love watching those empty highways, gimme more!!
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Old September 15th, 2005, 10:36 PM   #107
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Too bad drivers in China don't know what those lines on the road are for...

... Yeah, you Chinese forumers know EXACTLY what I'm talking about!
I don't know what you talk about?
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Old September 15th, 2005, 10:39 PM   #108
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Old September 16th, 2005, 05:21 AM   #109
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I imagine in a few years they will regret all the landscaping that was done, no way they will be able to keep that groomed.
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Old September 16th, 2005, 09:48 AM   #110
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Old September 16th, 2005, 09:50 AM   #111
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Old September 16th, 2005, 09:53 AM   #112
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Old September 18th, 2005, 10:55 AM   #113
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...the best thing to come out of the Nazi Germany.

Seriously though, as an American, yes, this is very impressive. They are better kept than ours, but if they have less traffic, than it's no surprise they are kept well. However, this is China, and something tells me that's not the case.

Some basic knowledge about China's freeways.
1) They cost $$$, big time, for drivers. Each stretch costs something between $4 to 10$. While certain turnpikes on the east coast costs toll, most of the freeways in our country is entirely free. As far as I remember, most freeways in western Europe (except UK) are free too.
2) The reason why these Chinese freeways cost tolls because they are brand new. Understandably, the investor needs to get his money back.
3) Because these freeways are brand new, you cannot compare these brand new infrastructure to old existing infrastructure of the developed worlds. And mind you, they are NOT well kept at all. I myself have traveled on some freeways in eastern China between Shanghai and Hangzhou and Ningbo etc, that were built within 5 years, you will see quite a few potholes that are left unfilled.
4) Building freeways is a big FACE project and GDP generator for local governments (面子工程). The chiefs at a local government is evaluated by his boss (not by his people) on how much GDP is generated a year. Also, when his boss comes to visit the local area, infrastructure projects always leave the most favorable impression.
5) My civil engineering friends informed me that freeway architects in China care about aesthetics, especially the aerial view, more than anything. All freeway designs must be approved by the local government heads who are mostly NOT civil engineers nor architects, and they usually demand the freeways to look very pleasing from the air. That is why you see lots of nice aerial photos of freeways that don't seem to make sense from traffic point of view.

Roads are not the most impressive structures that the Chinese built. The most impressive buildings are usually the government office. They soar several hundred meters high, taking very avant garde shapes and costing hundreds of millions of dollars. The most expensive building in China is most likely an administrative office of the local government.
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Old September 18th, 2005, 10:57 AM   #114
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Old September 19th, 2005, 01:07 AM   #115
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I may have missed this elsewhere in the topic, but does anybody know what speed limits are posted? If speed zoning practices are in concert with the rest of the world, I would assume 120 - 130 Kph.
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Old September 21st, 2005, 02:19 AM   #116
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I imagine in a few years they will regret all the landscaping that was done, no way they will be able to keep that groomed.

thats exactly what i was thinking.
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Old September 21st, 2005, 04:04 PM   #117
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Rzj, can't see your pics! Please repost.
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Old September 21st, 2005, 08:45 PM   #118
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they look like freeways???
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Old September 22nd, 2005, 12:05 AM   #119
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what the hell is that???
My thoughts exactly, it does look nice and clean but it's empty and seems to have no real purpose, it's like a nature/road parks for cars and lousy drivers..LOL
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Old September 23rd, 2005, 12:52 AM   #120
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To me, all those roads look pretty impressive.
Do any of you have any estimation of total lenght of chinese motorways?
how many kilometers do they build a year????
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