daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old April 25th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #1341
big-dog
Registered User
 
big-dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 6840

Jincheng-Jiyuan expressway opened in Dec 2008



Located in Shanxi and Hennan Provinces, Jincheng-Jiyuan expressway is part of the 2685km Erlianhaote-Guangzhou expressway (G55). That route is well known for its geographical complexity. The expressway is one of the hardest to be built.









Xianshenhe Bridge, critical project on Jincheng-Jiyuan expressway





(baidu.com)
__________________

The_Knight_rider liked this post
big-dog no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old April 25th, 2009, 08:24 PM   #1342
Chrissib
Margela Schurkel
 
Chrissib's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Den Haag
Posts: 1,739
Likes (Received): 13207

Is there a plan to number the expressways?

From what I've heard the Guo-Roads translate to Bundesstraßen in Germany or US-Highways, but not Interstates or Autobahns.
Chrissib está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old April 26th, 2009, 01:33 AM   #1343
foxmulder_ms
Registered User
 
foxmulder_ms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 262
Likes (Received): 21

Breathtaking scenes...
foxmulder_ms no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 26th, 2009, 05:13 AM   #1344
baidu
Registered User
 
baidu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 111
Likes (Received): 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrissib View Post
Is there a plan to number the expressways?

From what I've heard the Guo-Roads translate to Bundesstraßen in Germany or US-Highways, but not Interstates or Autobahns.
Guo-Roads(国道) of course are not express way,otherwise china has too many express ways
Guo-express(国家高速) are express way
baidu no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 27th, 2009, 05:17 AM   #1345
hoosier
Registered User
 
hoosier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 2,446
Likes (Received): 58

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
It seems logical that China will have a larger freeway network than the United States. The US is not very densely populated, even along the east coast, parallel freeways are often over 150 - 200 km spaced apart, that's even worse in the midwest and west coast, where parallel freeways can be hundreds of miles apart.

If China decides to give every 100,000+ city a connection to the freeway network, you're gonna get an amazing freeway network. China has like 3 times more cities above 200,000 population than the United States.
And there won't be any successful freeway revolts in China unlike in the U.S. In China, if the government wants to build a road, it gets built.
__________________
R.I.P. Moke- my best bud
hoosier no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 11th, 2009, 12:58 PM   #1346
big-dog
Registered User
 
big-dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 14,080
Likes (Received): 6840

Quote:
Originally Posted by rusgeren View Post
I think they will build much new roads than in the last years, to keep the economical growth and to give the unemployed persons a new job.
yes, especially in global crisis times.

Quote:
Historical Development of Expressway Length in China

Year Distance (KM)
01-01-1988 0
01-01-1989 147
01-01-1990 271
01-01-1991 522
01-01-1992 574
01-01-1993 652
01-01-1994 1145
01-01-1995 1603
01-01-1996 2141
01-01-1997 3422
01-01-1998 4771
01-01-1999 8733
01-01-2000 11605
01-01-2001 16314
01-01-2002 19453
01-01-2003 25200
01-01-2004 29800
01-01-2005 34300
01-01-2006 41005
01-01-2007 45339
01-01-2008 53913
01-01-2009 60346
01-01-2010 65000 (projected)
(wikipedia)
big-dog no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 12th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #1347
squirrelq
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
Likes (Received): 4

The wikipedia was entry was created by me too...

But fairly enough most of the data originated from some Chinese government sites:

http://www.sei.gov.cn/try/hgjj/yearb...tml/P1503e.htm
http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/stat...ta/yearlydata/
http://www.sei.gov.cn/hgjj/yearbook/...tml/P1603e.htm

The speed of construction shows some similarities with the speed of construction during the 30's of the previous century in Germany:
http://members.a1.net/wabweb/history/rab.htm

But the economy was fairly good during the hype of construction in the States during the 60's.

Last edited by squirrelq; May 12th, 2009 at 01:17 AM.
squirrelq no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 19th, 2009, 08:06 PM   #1348
Jiangwho
Registered User
 
Jiangwho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 802
Likes (Received): 58

Changde-Jishou Expressway














__________________
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Jiangwho no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 19th, 2009, 11:50 PM   #1349
Timon91
Error
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: just outside Germany
Posts: 5,783
Likes (Received): 46

What is that yellow doing there on the road? Are they testing paint or sth?
__________________
My Flickr account.
Some of my photoseries: Northern Ireland, Prague, Boston, Alaska part 1, 2, 3, Smoggy Moscow, Warsaw, Wrocław, Kiev, Donetsk, Odessa and Chişinău.
Timon91 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 12:15 AM   #1350
Majestic
Systematic Chaos
 
Majestic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: POZnan* (PL)
Posts: 805
Likes (Received): 26

Quote:
Originally Posted by Timon91 View Post
What is that yellow doing there on the road? Are they testing paint or sth?
Actually it's sand - trying to save on asphalt.
Majestic no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 12:17 AM   #1351
Mateusz
Registered User
 
Mateusz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 6,536
Likes (Received): 235

Seriously ? It might be dangerous
Mateusz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 12:27 AM   #1352
Majestic
Systematic Chaos
 
Majestic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: POZnan* (PL)
Posts: 805
Likes (Received): 26

I always get the impression that those Chinese expressways are somewhat empty and desolate. I realise that with current China's economic growth rate most of those roads will get some decent traffic in a couple of years but right now it looks like they're built without recognition of traffic needs. So here comes a question to fellow Chinese forumers: is there any credible data on AADT of China's expressways?

Also, I'd like to know whether any decent service along these routes is available, I mean are there enough gas stations, restaurants, rest areas etc.?
Majestic no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 12:37 AM   #1353
staff
囧!
 
staff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Hong Kong | Singapore | Melbourne | Malmö | Copenhagen | Shanghai
Posts: 10,829
Likes (Received): 717


You're sort of answering your own question. With the economic growth and increasing car ownership all of the new highways in China will be heavily used in a not too distant future. You can't really compare "recognition of traffic needs" in China with the developed Western world in which all countries already have fully developed national trunk networks (and hence new highways are built on stretches where the need for them is discovered over time). China has been lacking highways between all of its major cities up until now, so these roads needs to be built no matter what.

Don't be fooled by the pics though. Basically all of the photos of new highways in this thread are taken for the purpose of showing the actual road (not the traffic on them) for promotional purposes etc, either during the construction stage or during the first or so day of inauguration.
__________________

Last edited by staff; May 20th, 2009 at 12:42 AM.
staff no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 02:02 AM   #1354
Jiangwho
Registered User
 
Jiangwho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 802
Likes (Received): 58



Staff really knows how Chinese people doing things ,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Majestic View Post
Actually it's sand - trying to save on asphalt.
No, its not sand. its yellow painted on the road's surface which keeps drivers awake.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Majestic View Post
I'd like to know whether any decent service along these routes is available, I mean are there enough gas stations, restaurants, rest areas etc.?
This is the service area, you can see a CNPC petroleum station and a restaurant on the right side of the pic.
__________________
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Last edited by Jiangwho; May 20th, 2009 at 02:33 AM.
Jiangwho no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 05:08 AM   #1355
BarbaricManchurian
来了就是深圳人
 
BarbaricManchurian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Worcester
Posts: 5,502
Likes (Received): 6892

On most expressways in China I’ve traveled on, there seemed to be relatively heavy traffic, but on the newer ones, traffic seems to be quite light, probably because they are so new most people haven’t heard of them, and because many are built as planning for future traffic, so current traffic may seem quite light on the high-capacity road. For example, the Jingjintang Expressway had light traffic for a while after it was built in 1993, but now it is so jammed with traffic that they built a parallel 2nd expressway.

On China Expressways, there’s usually a service plaza around every 50km, they usually have a gas station and cafeteria.

Last edited by BarbaricManchurian; May 20th, 2009 at 03:55 PM.
BarbaricManchurian no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 09:26 AM   #1356
Timon91
Error
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: just outside Germany
Posts: 5,783
Likes (Received): 46

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarbaricManchurian View Post
On most expressways in China I’ve traveled on, there seemed to be relatively heavy traffic, but on the newer ones, traffic seems to be quite light, probably because they are so new most people haven’t heard of them, and because many are built as planning for future traffic, so current traffic may seem quite light on the high-capacity road.
Probably because the 'older' expressways were built in the more built-up areas, and the newer in the areas where the need for an expressway is not so high.
__________________
My Flickr account.
Some of my photoseries: Northern Ireland, Prague, Boston, Alaska part 1, 2, 3, Smoggy Moscow, Warsaw, Wrocław, Kiev, Donetsk, Odessa and Chişinău.
Timon91 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 10:54 AM   #1357
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,591
Likes (Received): 19378

I guess the intercity travel by car is not very heavy yet.
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 03:59 PM   #1358
BarbaricManchurian
来了就是深圳人
 
BarbaricManchurian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Worcester
Posts: 5,502
Likes (Received): 6892

yes, both Timon91 and ChrisZwolle are correct, but a few expressways have high intercity traffic, for example, Beijing-Tianjin expressway and Beijing-Zhangjiakou expressway. Another factor is that the high toll dissaudes most people from using the expressways; they'll usually use the free national road which sometimes is almost as good as the expressway. Gasoline is pretty cheap though.
BarbaricManchurian no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old May 20th, 2009, 05:49 PM   #1359
Mateusz
Registered User
 
Mateusz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 6,536
Likes (Received): 235

Quote:
Originally Posted by BarbaricManchurian View Post
On most expressways in China I’ve traveled on, there seemed to be relatively heavy traffic, but on the newer ones, traffic seems to be quite light, probably because they are so new most people haven’t heard of them, and because many are built as planning for future traffic, so current traffic may seem quite light on the high-capacity road. For example, the Jingjintang Expressway had light traffic for a while after it was built in 1993, but now it is so jammed with traffic that they built a parallel 2nd expressway.

On China Expressways, there’s usually a service plaza around every 50km, they usually have a gas station and cafeteria.
Sounds like Poland in 80s a bit

When they built E22 between Chrzanów and Kraków, people even didn't know there is a motorway there
Mateusz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old June 9th, 2009, 09:32 AM   #1360
Sabanban
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 428
Likes (Received): 21

How many km of expressway is China going to build this year?

整个波兰的高速公路现在不到七百公里,跟中国做什么比较? 还说什么八十年代的波兰。

Last edited by Sabanban; June 9th, 2009 at 09:45 AM.
Sabanban no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium