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Old December 31st, 2011, 08:32 PM   #1861
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Wow, they log all expressway openings there? Great tool.
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Old December 31st, 2011, 08:56 PM   #1862
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Usually near the new year, there are a ton of openings. Tons of high speed rail, metro, and expressways opened in the last few days, really exciting times!
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Old December 31st, 2011, 09:17 PM   #1863
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I wonder in a few years, will it be possible to drive on Motorway all the way from Europe to Russia then Kazakhstan and then hit the Chinese motorway network near Almaty and then drive all the way to inner china on a 5.000 KM motorway to Shanghai ?

When i retire it will be my dream to do that trip, its fascinating!
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Old January 1st, 2012, 04:41 AM   #1864
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I wonder in a few years, will it be possible to drive on Motorway all the way from Europe to Russia then Kazakhstan and then hit the Chinese motorway network near Almaty and then drive all the way to inner china on a 5.000 KM motorway to Shanghai ?

When i retire it will be my dream to do that trip, its fascinating!
Don't you prefer driving through China to Singapore for instance ?

P.S.: I'd gladly join such a trip, and not necessarily when I retire
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Old January 1st, 2012, 07:56 AM   #1865
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China adds 11,000 km of expressway in 2011. Total expressway mileage hits 85,000km

我国高速公路总里程达8.5万公里新增1.1万2011年12月31日 08:06人民日报【大 中 小】 【打印】 共有评论0条今年新增公路逾7万公里

我国高速公路总里程达8.5万公里  

记者从12月30日召开的2012年全国交通运输工作会议上获悉:2011年我国新增公路通车里程7.14万公里,其中高速公路1.10万公里,新改建农村公路19万公里。截至2011年底我国高速公路总里程达8.5万公里。

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China's expressway mileage of 85,000 km 11,000 newAt 08:06 on December 31, 2011 People's Daily [ big in small】 【Print】Total Comments 0 ofThis year more than 70,000 km of newly built highways

China's expressway mileage of 85,000 km

Reporters from the meeting of December 30, 2012, the National Transportation Working Conference was informed: 2011 China's new highway mileage 71,400 km, 11,000 km of expressways, a new reconstruction of rural roads 190,000 km. As of the end of 2011 China's highway mileage of 85,000 km.
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Old January 1st, 2012, 09:10 AM   #1866
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85,000km of expressways already. At this rate, China will surpass the USA in just a few more years.
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Old January 1st, 2012, 09:33 AM   #1867
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11,000 km of new expressway added in one year, that's one crazy year. If we only count the US Interstate system then China's equivalent National Trunk Highway System is already the longest in the world (85,000km vs ~76,000km). The original target for China was to hit 85,000km by 2020, well I guess they were being conservative.
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Old January 1st, 2012, 09:37 AM   #1868
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85,000km of expressways already. At this rate, China will surpass the USA in just a few more years.
I think the current length of the Interstate is < 85,000 km


Source:http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/e...temileage.html
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Old January 1st, 2012, 10:41 AM   #1869
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The Interstate is just a (big) part of the US expressway system.

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I think the current length of the Interstate is < 85,000 km


Source:http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/e...temileage.html
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Old January 1st, 2012, 11:33 AM   #1870
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Yep, the total U.S. freeway network is just short of 100 000 kilometers.
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Old January 1st, 2012, 01:09 PM   #1871
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Thus just few more years and it will happen. As well as just few more years and it will be have biggest GDP (PPP) as well. I hope they would start to work on new types of transports in the cities as well soon, merging private and public transport systems.
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 09:25 PM   #1872
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Street View has arrived to Tibet & Shenzhen:

http://map.soso.com/

(Click the WebCam symbol, then place it on the blue regions)

Unfortunately, it's a local Chinese company and not Google, so the speed is quite limited from my location, probably the Great Firewall has something to do with it.
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 11:01 PM   #1873
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Great! Thanks.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 01:23 AM   #1874
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The Chinese numbers are from the Ministry of Transport of China? Because ...

... the China expressway mileage does not include the expressways administered by provincial level governments, such as in Beijing (with its five expressway ring roads), the extensive system of Shanghai and the expressways of Hong Kong. No data is readily available for the lengths of these roads.

- China Expressway System to Exceed US Interstates (by Wendell Cox 01/22/2011, www.newgeography.com)
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 01:31 AM   #1875
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The Chinese numbers are from the Ministry of Transport of China? Because ...

... the China expressway mileage does not include the expressways administered by provincial level governments, such as in Beijing (with its five expressway ring roads), the extensive system of Shanghai and the expressways of Hong Kong. No data is readily available for the lengths of these roads.

- China Expressway System to Exceed US Interstates (by Wendell Cox 01/22/2011, www.newgeography.com)
That would be 1500km extra at best. If we mean Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong that is.

but what about Guangzhou? And some other cities? Are the expressways in those cities included in the total China expressway figure?
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 10:34 AM   #1876
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The provincial expressway network is extensive in eastern provinces.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 11:34 AM   #1877
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The provincial expressway network is extensive in eastern provinces.
Are they included in the total that we know? If not then how many km we're talking about?

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 11:45 AM   #1878
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It appears a bit unrealistic to me if the 80 000 km value would include only national expressways. There are maybe 10 or 12 of them that exceed 3000 kilometers each.
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Old January 4th, 2012, 01:30 AM   #1879
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I wonder in a few years, will it be possible to drive on Motorway all the way from Europe to Russia then Kazakhstan and then hit the Chinese motorway network near Almaty and then drive all the way to inner china on a 5.000 KM motorway to Shanghai ?

When i retire it will be my dream to do that trip, its fascinating!
Russia is cold. Don't you prefer the road in the south. BG-TR-IR-TUR-UZ-Kazakhstan instead?
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Old January 4th, 2012, 11:15 AM   #1880
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That route would be closer for me since i live in Greece but i have read that some places in Iran - Turkmenistan - Uzbekistan are very dangerous and the road network is not very good compared to Russia.
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