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View Poll Results: Spire or no Spire?
Spire 185 51.68%
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Old July 17th, 2005, 03:54 AM   #21
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It depends on the design.

Chrysler -- Yes.
Bloomberg Tower -- No.
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Old July 17th, 2005, 04:23 AM   #22
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It depends on the building...
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Old July 17th, 2005, 07:31 AM   #23
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the empire state building looks good with its to spire
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Old July 17th, 2005, 07:32 AM   #24
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or antenna whatever you want to call it
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Old July 17th, 2005, 07:32 AM   #25
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but i kind of like square glassy building to
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Old July 17th, 2005, 08:15 AM   #26
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It really depends,

Some buildings look crap with a spire other look crap without
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Old July 17th, 2005, 12:26 PM   #27
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SPIRE!!!
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Old July 17th, 2005, 05:26 PM   #28
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I like skylines with a mixture of buildings with spire and buildings without. The majority should have no spire, only a few outstanding ones should have spires, and the spires should serve a function.

So I voted spire.
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Old July 17th, 2005, 10:41 PM   #29
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Spires ad a nice personel touch to a skraper and helps make buildings unique.
Most of the favorite buildings on this board have spires.
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Old July 18th, 2005, 12:12 AM   #30
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No spires or antennae. They cheat!
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Old July 18th, 2005, 12:30 AM   #31
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I prefer spires even though some of them look shit
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Old July 18th, 2005, 12:31 AM   #32
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A spire can be a great addition to a building that helps finish it off.
If it's just a pole then that sucks.
In general I prefer spires though.
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Old July 18th, 2005, 06:27 PM   #33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrogen
It depends on the design.

Chrysler -- Yes.
Bloomberg Tower -- No.
Yeah pretty much sums up what i think. It's sad that the spire has become a 'dirty entity' in buildings. IF a building is designed with a spire then no flat roof can ever compete. There's something magical about a building gently soaring into the sky.
End of the day i believe that the rules need to be changed so that some credibility can come back to design. For me i always thought that the height of the spire should be intimately linked with the building it caps. So naturally a percentage should be used. Eg. only 10% of the height of the building to roof should be counted on the spire. For the sears then only 45.2 m should be counted. This respects the sears great height as a shorter tower say 300m can have a 200m spire but only 30m would be officially counted. This doesn't allow it to exploit the spire as current buildings do.
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Old July 18th, 2005, 10:59 PM   #34
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I also hate it when you take something away from the height of a building and it makes the building shorter.
A spire is unoccupied height, so it won't make any buildings shorter.
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Old July 19th, 2005, 08:33 PM   #35
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depends on the building. or could you imagine burj dubai without spire.
nevertheless i prefer spire in general on top of most towers.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 04:54 AM   #36
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i can't say whether or not i prefer one or the other. some buildings are shaped as such that they would look incomplete without a spire, while others would not look pleasing with them.

also, whether or not a spire belongs on a building also depends on its quality. jin mao, chrysler, key tower, and petronas have very nice spires that blend in with their architecture, but the spires on taipei 101, 101/120 collins st (melbourne), renaissance tower (dallas), and canada trust tower (toronto) have horrible spires that looks like nothing but cheap height gainers and makes those building look worse than if they don't have those spires.

it usually doesn't bother me to see buildings gain some cheap height with spires. but, if the spires are really tall, then they will start bothering me. examples of that are the shimao international plaza (shanghai, 250m w/o spire, 333m with spire), and bp tower (sydney, 185m w/o spire, 240m with spire). the spires of both buildings are so tall that they dominate the buildings' height too much and make them look unproportional.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 05:11 AM   #37
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Depends on the building.
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Old July 20th, 2005, 09:55 PM   #38
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Old July 23rd, 2005, 11:02 PM   #39
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I think the spires on Petronas are beautiful because they really fit in the design,
in contrast to those on the Sears tower.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 06:38 AM   #40
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^Those are not spires on the Sears tower, they are antennas.
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