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View Poll Results: Spire or no Spire?
Spire 185 51.68%
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Old July 26th, 2005, 06:43 AM   #41
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I voted no spire only because I feel that spires should not be included in a buildings height just like antennas. As far as a buildings design is concerned I am ambivalent toward spires. If they finish off a building well they are good, if not they are bad.
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Old July 27th, 2005, 11:16 PM   #42
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Spire or no spire, I love them all! If it looks great on the skyscraper's design, add it is a definitely plus. But some skyscrapers look quite awkward with that spire sticking out of it, then why bother! Me, personal, like spire, altho I prefer the spire that really fits with its building! and of course, not overpowering it to get the WTBs crown!
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Old July 28th, 2005, 09:31 PM   #43
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Overall, no spire.... the city just seems more dense and populated that way.... but there are some designs that definitely looks better with spires, and a few spires would make a skyline much more interesting.... and I do agree with what people have been saying here.... spires should not be counted when breaking records for height... I say use the highest enclosed inhabitable floor
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Old August 1st, 2005, 10:36 PM   #44
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It depends on the building.
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Old August 3rd, 2005, 05:27 AM   #45
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Think of the Golden Age of Skyscrapers. They are magnificent buildings, far more iconic than the International Style boxes which succeeded them. Skyline shots of NYC from the 1940s gave the city a magical, otherworldly feeling. Today, modern skylines only have their height to create interest. A spire is not necessary, but some kind of tapering or set-back not only increases the vertical sense, but from a strictly aesthetic vantage point makes a bulky building appear graceful. I think this is one reason why so many people love Cesar Pelli's towers.
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Old August 5th, 2005, 03:48 AM   #46
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I like the look of a spire, but not counting for th etotal hieght. occupational hieght is my first choice. In the 1970's ou state capital constructed a 99m tower. With no spire, it is just a tall square building. A spire would have done wonders.
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Old August 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM   #47
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It all depends on the building. Buildings like the Empire State and Chrysler would look really awkward without their spires.

I'm just waiting for Burj Dubai to get built so we can finally have building that's the TALLEST in all categories
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Old August 8th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #48
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I like alot of spires, but its unfair that they count in the buildings max height
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Old August 9th, 2005, 12:15 AM   #49
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On the whole I think spires are a good thing... BUT they must fit the building properly. There are many spires that look awkward, silly or just plain ugly. In general, a well-designed spire gives a very classic feel, and makes the building seem more graceful in the skyline.

Of course, a whole city full of spires just looks silly. I think they only look good on landmark towers and away from other spires.
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Old August 18th, 2005, 09:51 PM   #50
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Spire of course that's how petronas got to be the biggest
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Old August 19th, 2005, 02:40 PM   #51
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No spire! Spire is just affected height...
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Old September 3rd, 2005, 06:02 AM   #52
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A spire makes a skyscraper look nicer.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 01:33 PM   #53
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we got to understand that spire is part of an architectural combination. like the petronas towers, the spires height do not really skyhigh, but nicely fitted on the overall height of the towers. if a spire is 'overgrown' too long like in the case of burj dubai, then thats is not for an architectural purpose, but to be for the title, unmatched by any other projects.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 02:06 PM   #54
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It is all about the design though i mostly like one or two of the tallest tower in a city to have a spire eg. ESB and Citigroup Sydney
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Old October 5th, 2005, 12:05 AM   #55
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I prefer spires.
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Old October 5th, 2005, 04:14 AM   #56
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spire are great enhancers
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Old October 5th, 2005, 11:45 PM   #57
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I tend to find counting the spire as height when it's not that big as someone trying to make the font size of their papers biggers so that they can type less.
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Old October 6th, 2005, 12:40 AM   #58
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Spire finishes a tower nicely...
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Old October 8th, 2005, 07:32 PM   #59
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i can't say whether or not i prefer one or the other. some buildings are shaped as such that they would look incomplete without a spire, while others would not look pleasing with them.

also, whether or not a spire belongs on a building also depends on its quality. jin mao, chrysler, key tower, and petronas have very nice spires that blend in with their architecture, but the spires on taipei 101, 101/120 collins st (melbourne), renaissance tower (dallas), and canada trust tower (toronto) have horrible spires that looks like nothing but cheap height gainers and makes those building look worse than if they don't have those spires.

it usually doesn't bother me to see buildings gain some cheap height with spires. but, if the spires are really tall, then they will start bothering me. examples of that are the shimao international plaza (shanghai, 250m w/o spire, 333m with spire), and bp tower (sydney, 185m w/o spire, 240m with spire). the spires of both buildings are so tall that they dominate the buildings' height too much and make them look unproportional.
btw the ones on 101/120 collins are antennas and serve a purpouse at antennas, when they were first built, they had no antennas for a while, they dont count for height.
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Old October 8th, 2005, 07:35 PM   #60
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I tend to find counting the spire as height when it's not that big as someone trying to make the font size of their papers biggers so that they can type less.
Nicely said.

Spires can finish a tower nicely, but they shouldn't count for height.
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