OSIJEK - construction update

[OettingerCroat]

Originally Posted by esseker

well guys I must admit I'm plesantly surprised with your knowledge about Osijek and the interset you show.

So before I get out there with my camera and give you a real update, here are some facts and figures about Osijek...

First, the "Gradski vrt" park was distroyed after the WW2 but gradually. I gusess like many things at that time that were not "in the spirit of communism".

Europska avenija street is some 1 km long but about 500 meters of that is sourrounded with beautiful old parks and the rest are the secession style buildings. Those buildings were built in the late 19th and early 20th century at the time of a fast economical rise. The town's council decided that all houses in that street must have front gardens and that's also what makes them look so nice.

Osijek's Cathedral, I must disappoint you, is only a parish church but because of it's size and the fact it was built by bishop Strossmayer who is an Esseker, people call it cathedral. It was finished in 1899 (if I remmember correctly). It's built in a neo-gothic style in the place where an older baroque church used to be. It's spire is 90 meters high. At first they stardted to built it to the hight of 100 m but it kept collapsing so they had to satisfy with 90 It is made of fasade bricks and the edges are made of lime-stone. In the last war it was havily damaged but today you can hardly see that damages. I even have a pice of the spire on my desk!
Every friday at noon it's bells remind us of the defete of the Turks.

hehe cool thing about the bells

can someone tell me about the trams in osijek? which ones run currently, and what are the tram plans for the future?

[esseker]

Trams in Osijek are about 25 years old and most of them are Tatra ones like in Zagreb and there are also a few Duewag's. At the moment the eastern part of the network is being reconstructed. The west par in Retfala quarter has been reconstructed a few years ago. the tracks on the main square are new . In 1990 tram network started to expand to the south but stopped after just a few hundred meters and we are still wayting. There are plans to continue what was started and to bring trams to the Jug 2 quarter where only busses operate.

here's a pictuer of the part of main square that's finished

here's a detail from the seccesion row


There had been some plans to make Tvrdja a Student's town with colleges and schools... After the new campus was started, some wanted to make Tvrdja into a public institutions quarter but what ever they decide I belive Tvrdja should continue to look like on this picture to be opened to everyone! On this picture you can see this years highschool graduets celebrating the 20th of May after they danced the Quadrilla dance for the Guiness book of records. If you look closely you can see the statues on the Hooly Trinnity Pillar have been renovated completely (all of them).

[gwinczlav]

Look at the pillars carring overhead electricity wires. Even waste baskets look classy. Are they chromed, i like chrome. Looks good

[bubach_hlubach]

Pretty cool Is the one in the middle gonna be cleaned and renovated as well ? Is it true that Osjecani call it 'kuga' (the pleague) ?

[SinCity]

90 metres is very high for the 'cathedral'. Impressive height

I love all that session architecture and any restoration is excellent.

Interesting about the midday bells. Quite a tradition considering its still carried out today.

[SinCity]

Gospodarstvo

20.07.2005 17:16

Otvoren HITRO.HR u Osijeku

Servis hrvatske Vlade za brzu i transparentnu komunikaciju poduzetnika i građana s tijelima državne uprave, HITRO.HR, otvoren je jučer u osječkoj poslovnici Financijske agencije.
Uz Zagrepčane i Splićane, koji se uslugama servisa HITRO.HR koriste od svibnja, od sada će i Osječani moći, s pomoću tog serisa, osnovati društvo s ograničenom odgovornosti i otvoriti obrt.

Od početka rada servisa u Zagrebu i Splitu otvoreno je gotovo stotinu novih trgovačkih društava i obrta. (H)

[esseker]

Actually, the Cathedrals bells ring every day at noon but on fridays they ring longer so not many people know that.

I haven't heard anyone call the Holy Trinnity Pillar "kuga". Maybe some do becose like in many other centraleuropean towns there are such pillars that were erected to give thanks for the end of the plage epidemy. The one in Osijek was erected by a woman who wanted to save a memory of her husband (I think). All 8 statues are cleaned and fixed but I don't know when they will clean the central pillar.
In Pozega there is also a Holy Trinity Pillar, It stands on the main town square. It is interesting to know the town payed the builder 300 forints and 2000 eggs! that was in 1749.

[esseker]

they announced that the fasade of the University's Headquarters will be renovated in a way to show the lost details again. Since it's construction in the 18th century that building was renovated a few times but it was not done correctly so many nice details of the plastics were lost.

[esseker]

I took a look at the Rijeka and Split forums and I saw you talked a lot about light rail system and a possible new tram network there. Last month there was a congres Opatija about city-suburbuian rail traffic. They talked a lot about Osijek there.

In 1984, Osijek was the first town in Croatia where "town railway network" existed. The line went from west to east with connections to the south 30 km to Vinkovci, 10 km north to Darda and western to Bizovacke Toplice. Unfortunately war ended development of that network but according to the congress in Opatija Osijek might get it's local rail network back.

At this time 28 trams and 40 busses don't help to reduce traffic problems so a new Public Transport Company might be founded where trains would take much of the towns and suburbian traffic. According to calculations a one way ticket would cost only 3.5 Kuna and it would be valid for all 3 ways of transport (today tram/bus ticket costs 6 or 7 Kn, and train ticket for 10 km costs 8 kn in one way)

In the near future the line from Hungary to Bosnia that passes thru Osijek (C-5) will be electrified so that will make town train traffic even easier. At this time the Public company (GPP) only carries more than 10.6 million passangers per year.

Here's a picture of the current DMU's that operate locally:

[mic of Orion]

great stuff esseker, can you tell me how many tram lines there are in Osijek, I always thought there where 2 but I found out few trams with 3 and 4 on there displays, is this mean what I think it does?

[gwinczlav]

Thanks for the great write up. You said you're studying marketing so i wanna ask in what condition is Faculty of economics building.

[SinCity]

Thats great to see they are considering a central transport body for Osijek which hopes to put in place an expanded tram and suburban train network.

Also the rennovation news on the University is great. Osijek has a large fantastic inventory of sessionist buildings.

[esseker]

here's how Suncana ulica (Sunny street) looks now. Soon it will become a pedestrian zone only, in half way from the main square and main train station.

The Ekonomski faks building is in good shape. The old part of it overlooking the square was renovated a some years ago and this year 3 new big halls have been finished. When I get free time I will take a few pics of it too.

In Osijek there are only 2 tram lines. Throughout history the town was build along Drava river so the tram lines follow that shape. In 1990 a new extention was started towards south but is still not finished. Still the authorities announced that it will also extend to the south-east. We all hope it will soon

Here's the tram and bus network map:

[esseker]

23.7.2005
RAZVOJ JUGOISTOCNOG DIJELA GRADA - DIVALTOVA DOBIVA LUKSUZNE STANOVE
Urbane vile donose luksuz u Divaltovu

Žila kucavica jugoistocnog dijela grada (CG Novi grad i Jug 2), Ulica Martina Divalta razvija se, doslovce, iz dana u dan, a uskoro ce dobiti i notu - luksuza. Derutne stracare polako nestaju, rodilo se vec nekoliko poslovno-stabenih zgrada, hotel, u krajnjem istocnom djelu smjestili su se autosalon i Škojina pekara, gradi se nova crkva sv. Cirila i Metoda (koja ce, kad se jednom završi, biti uistinu velebna)..., a do proljeca sljedece godine Divaltova ce se moci pohvaliti prvim osjeckim urbanim vilama! Samo još da stigne sto godina najavljivani tramvaj...
Villa Slavonica, Villa Esseker i Villa Pannonium, slavonski su nazivi koje je buducim luksuznim objektima nadjenuo njihov investitor i graditelj, osjecka tvrtka “KT”, koja je vec participirala u Divaltovoj poznatom “žutom zgradom” kod crkve. Inace, definicija urbane vile kaže da je rijec o “objektu s manjim brojem stanova nego što je praksa u zgradama”.
- Urbana vila ima dva do šest stanova, odvojenih ulaza, s prostranim terasama, vanjskim otvorima s velikim staklenim stijenkama koje prostorijama daju mnogo svjetlosti i prozracnosti. Svaka naša vila sadrži cetiri stambene jedinice - pojašnjava Marijana Arlovic, glasnogovornica tvrtke “KT”.
Vile su smještene u Divaltovoj 82, u pozadini cetverokatnice (koja je takoder u gradnji), a koja ih odvaja od prometa služeci kao zvucni izolator. Pristup automobilom, kaže Arlovic, imat ce samo vlasnici stanova, a regulirat ce se rampom na daljinsko upravljanje. Vezano uz to, u ponudi ce biti garaže na daljinsko otvaranje, a ispred vila ce biti napravljen zeleni posjas ukrašen crnogoricnim drvecem i patuljastim grmovima. Inace, projektnu dokumentaciju izradio je “Projektum Zaz”.
Ekskluzivitet se brzo procuje. Tako je vec, doznajemo, “dobar dio od 12 luksuznih stanova prodan, a cijena kvadrata je 1.200 kuna”. Medutim, iz Uprave tvrtke porucuju da je nacin placanja ujedno i korektor cijene. Vile ce biti useljive u proljece sljedece godine.

Autor: M. MIHALJEVIC

[esseker]

KONJSKI TRAMVAJ (motiv iz Osijeka) Tramvajski promet imali su, prema raspoloživim povijesnim podacima, ovi hrvatski gradovi: Osijek, Zagreb, Rijeka, Opatija, Dubrovnik, Velika Gorica i Pula, a zadržala su ga do danas samo dva kontinentalna grada - Zagreb i Osijek. Primat grada s najstarijim konjskim tramvajem pripada gradu Osijeku. Osijek se razvijao na tri lokacije (Gornji grad, Tvrda, Donji grad) te je trebalo tramvajem grad spojiti u jedinstvenu urbanu cjelinu. Tako se dogodilo da je Osijek prvi uveo tramvaj u javni gradski prijevoz. Konjski je tramvaj pušten u promet 10. rujna 1884., a širina kolosijeka iznosila je 1000 mm. Vozio je do 31. ožujka 1926. godine. Kako je Osijek posjedovao plinaru i za javnu gradsku rasvjetu koristio plin, to je usporilo odnosno odgodilo proces elektrifikacije, a elektricna centrala tzv. munjara sagradena je tek 1926. godine. Elektricni tramvaj provozio je 12. prosinca 1926. na starom metarskom kolosijeku, u koju je svrhu bila preuredena trasa konjskog tramvaja, koja je ostala nepromijenjena sve do danas.

[esseker]

This is the picture of the Grand entrance to the once beautiful park "Gradski vrt". The building once hosted the only Town Dancing Hall in Croatia which had a dancing hall, restaurant and a confectionery.
In front and in the back a big seccessionist park spreaded untill 1945 when town's government suddenly "forgot" about it. The park was destroyed and on it's southern border the Osijek's soccer stadium was built. The "grand entrance" was havily damaged in the last war but it's reconstruction can not start because the town is not the owner any more (!).
Hopefully the construction of the new stadium will begin in the near future(you saw the photos earlyer) and replace the ugly grey concrete stadium. It will be nice to connect the old and new architecture It is interesting to know that untill 1926 a tram line existed here and that was the southern line I mentioned that will be built (soon?).

Here's the photo of the stadium now.

[gwinczlav]

Tako je vec, doznajemo, “dobar dio od 12 luksuznih stanova prodan, a cijena kvadrata je 1.200 kuna”.

It must be 1200 euros, but it's probably still a base price.

Konjski je tramvaj pušten u promet 10. rujna 1884., a širina kolosijeka iznosila je 1000 mm.

Thats weird. In Zagreb, horse tram ran on 760 mm gauge, when it got electrified they widened the gauge to 1000 mm because 1435 was too much, almost double.

In front and in the back a big seccessionist park spreaded untill 1945 when town's government suddenly "forgot" about it. The park was destroyed and on it's southern border the Osijek's soccer stadium was built

Imagine it before the WW2. That must have been really nice. Some day i'd love to see the old pictures of Gradski vrt at its' peak.

[AstroBoy]

I'd love to see old photos of those gardens. Such a pity they are now gone.

Interesting stuff on those new housing developments for Osijek.

[esseker]

feast your eyes on these secession's masterpieces

the Central post office "Post Palais" (built in Hungarian secession style)


a house built in Vienna secession style

[SinCity]

Definately a city with class architecture.