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Metrolink · October 25th, 2005, 06:51 PM

You can see the bar at the other end in that picture

View from the bar...

daveylad2 · October 25th, 2005, 08:00 PM

I think he means it will be like the one built in 1966.

Metrolink · October 25th, 2005, 08:33 PM

I hope not, although there is nothing wrong with that arena (have watched a game of ice hockey there several years ago, Manchester v some Helsinki team) but it is not of the same standard of the modern one in the pictures (went on a tour of the building whilst in the city).

The modern one is on a par with the MEN, the older one isn't sadly, it is simply a bowl, with several thousand seats, very similar to just about every other 8odd thousand seat arenas in the world.

Leeds No.1 · October 25th, 2005, 08:34 PM

That Arena looks a bit rubbish IMO....

Metrolink · October 25th, 2005, 08:37 PM

The ones in the picture?

Maybe the pictures don't do it justice, trust me, it is a great arena, very unique, much better than your typical bowl arena we get in this country, such as Nottingham and Sheffield.

What it lacks in size compared to the MEN, it makes up with the excellent bar and restaurant area. It is more than simply an arena, it is a lesuire location.

Chris Silverwood · October 26th, 2005, 04:43 PM

Dear All,

In order to clear up any confusion, I refer to our www.leedsarena.com website

"The business plan to fund and finance arena development has been subjected to substantial due diligence by Leeds Arena's professional financial advisers and financial institutions to the satisfaction of its partners, and is based on a visionary approach to corporate memberships, corporate hospitality, the use of innovative smart technology and bespoke high quality food and beverage offerings.

Many aspects of the Leeds Arena concept can be found in recent arena projects, most notably the Hartwall Areena in Helsinki, the Air Canada Centre in Toronto, GM Place in Vancouver and the Color Line Arena in Hamburg."

Kindest regards,

Chris Silverwood
Leeds Arena Ltd

jimbo · October 26th, 2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeds No.1

That Arena looks a bit rubbish IMO....

really, on what basis? In the absence of any decent arena / venue at all today, I think this would tick the box with bells on!

The Silver Star Cafe place in Helsinki looks cool - quite American retro!

thanks for keeping us in the loop and providing regular updates Chris, it's excellent to see how dedicated and confident yourself and Patrick are of providing a suitable solution in Leeds city centre. I hope the council are listening to you, and that your meetings with Andrew Carter will be productive.

I presume you'd be looking to get quite a bit of sponsorship investment by selling naming rights etc?

Leeds No.1 · October 26th, 2005, 06:15 PM

Obviously I havent visited, however the look of it does not seem that much different to any other arena...

Metrolink · October 26th, 2005, 06:45 PM

No1 - I have visitied many many arenas in europe watching Manchester Storm ice hockey, having been to this one I can honestly say it is the right up there with the best (Turku also in Finland, have a decent one too).

Not sure what else you are expecting from an arena.

For those who don't give a toss, I think my favorite arena has to be Ambri-Piotta, not for size (probably only holds about 8 thousand, of which most are standing), but it is right up in the Swiss Alps, and the end walls don't go up to the roof, so you can see out of the ends and be looking at huge Alpine mountains covered in snow. The atmosphere at Swiss ice hockey is like the atmosphere at football over here 15 years ago.

The Swiss also know how to do beer festivals after ice hockey matches.

anyway, bordom lesson over.

di Livio · October 26th, 2005, 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=Metrolink]The atmosphere at Swiss ice hockey is like the atmosphere at football over here 15 years ago.QUOTE]

Do they get darts in the eye, and bricks on your bonce?

LegEnd · October 27th, 2005, 12:52 AM

At least they can stand up to support there team if they want...

Neilynoo · October 28th, 2005, 03:06 AM

Leeds has needed an arena for decades and here we are STILL debating the issue. The proposal for an arena adjacent to Clarence Dock is by far the most sensible but why do I fear the needs of the city, it's people and the surrounding area will take 2nd place to whatever hidden adgenda the politicians have in mind? We shall see...

MikeinLeeds · October 28th, 2005, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neilynoo

Leeds has needed an arena for decades and here we are STILL debating the issue. The proposal for an arena adjacent to Clarence Dock is by far the most sensible but why do I fear the needs of the city, it's people and the surrounding area will take 2nd place to whatever hidden adgenda the politicians have in mind? We shall see...

Neilynoo...and everyone else for that matter!!!!

Make sure you make your views known to the people at the Leeds Initiative ....venue@leeds.gov.uk. We need to do all we can to counter the pro Elland Road lobby....every voice counts!!!

Mike

Neilynoo · November 2nd, 2005, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeinLeeds

Neilynoo...and everyone else for that matter!!!!

Make sure you make your views known to the people at the Leeds Initiative ....venue@leeds.gov.uk. We need to do all we can to counter the pro Elland Road lobby....every voice counts!!!

Mike

Cheers Mike, I just have!
I notice Crossgates (the old Barnbow works) is also mooted as a possible site?
I just hope we don't end up bogged down with objections and public enquiries etc. etc. as we really have waiting far too long and seem virtually every other decent city of note get an arena!

The Oil · November 10th, 2005, 02:08 PM

Unbelievably the council are set to announce that the 10 month study done by PMP, which resulted in identifying the need for an Arena in Leeds, is being followed up by commisioning another study which will report on ways of funding the Arena and the location of it. This wil take at least 6 months. Oh - and PMP apparently recommended Elland Road.

Chris - isn't it about time you got yourselves heard properly in the local media? Even the lethargic Yorkshire Evening Post has got a big feature tonight complaining at the interminable procrastination on this.

SmartCity · November 10th, 2005, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Oil

Unbelievably the council are set to announce that the 10 month study done by PMP, which resulted in identifying the need for an Arena in Leeds, is being followed up by commisioning another study which will report on ways of funding the Arena and the location of it. This wil take at least 6 months. Oh - and PMP apparently recommended Elland Road.

Chris - isn't it about time you got yourselves heard properly in the local media? Even the lethargic Yorkshire Evening Post has got a big feature tonight complaining at the interminable procrastination on this.

Looks like councillors sticking their nose where its not needed again!

I'm with you on this Oil, I think jo public really need to know what is at stake here

mike68 · November 10th, 2005, 04:32 PM

I think this would be a good time to call the Council 'to account' on its procrastination and extra money spent, coming so soon after the 12 years and 40 million spent on the Supertram fiasco!!!

Loiner · November 10th, 2005, 07:44 PM

So now its no Arena, to add to no Supertram, no Ian Simpson, no premier League football team and no Selfridges.

Talk about B list.

di Livio · November 10th, 2005, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loiner

So now its no Arena, to add to no Supertram, no Ian Simpson, no premier League football team and no Selfridges.

Talk about B list.

Ah, pessimism. That's what i like to hear.

Barking Spider · November 10th, 2005, 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=Neilynoo]Cheers Mike, I just have!
I notice Crossgates (the old Barnbow works) is also mooted as a possible site?

Crossgates-could-be-a-v.good-long-term-site-for-the-arena.-Already-easily-accessed-via-road/rail,-it-could-have-its-own-railway-station-&-motorway-exit.---(Apologies-for-the-difficult-to-read-post-by-the-way.-Spilt-a-glass-of-wine-over-my-keyboard-a-couple-of-nights-ago-&-many-keys-now-dont-work,-including-space-bar-&-apostrophe!-buying-a-new-one-tomorrow).

October 25th, 2005, 08:34 PM	#84
Leeds No.1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leeds, EU Posts: 22,273 Likes (Received): 100	That Arena looks a bit rubbish IMO.... __________________ "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure, It is our light not our darkness, that frightens us"

October 26th, 2005, 04:43 PM	#86
Chris Silverwood Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds Posts: 55 Likes (Received): 0	Leeds Arena Dear All, In order to clear up any confusion, I refer to our www.leedsarena.com website "The business plan to fund and finance arena development has been subjected to substantial due diligence by Leeds Arena's professional financial advisers and financial institutions to the satisfaction of its partners, and is based on a visionary approach to corporate memberships, corporate hospitality, the use of innovative smart technology and bespoke high quality food and beverage offerings. Many aspects of the Leeds Arena concept can be found in recent arena projects, most notably the Hartwall Areena in Helsinki, the Air Canada Centre in Toronto, GM Place in Vancouver and the Color Line Arena in Hamburg." Kindest regards, Chris Silverwood Leeds Arena Ltd

October 26th, 2005, 06:15 PM	#88
Leeds No.1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leeds, EU Posts: 22,273 Likes (Received): 100	Obviously I havent visited, however the look of it does not seem that much different to any other arena... __________________ "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure, It is our light not our darkness, that frightens us"

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October 25th, 2005, 06:51 PM	#81
Metrolink Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,738 Likes (Received): 0	You can see the bar at the other end in that picture View from the bar...

October 25th, 2005, 08:00 PM	#82
daveylad2 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Leeds Posts: 346 Likes (Received): 0	I think he means it will be like the one built in 1966.

October 25th, 2005, 08:33 PM	#83
Metrolink Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,738 Likes (Received): 0	I hope not, although there is nothing wrong with that arena (have watched a game of ice hockey there several years ago, Manchester v some Helsinki team) but it is not of the same standard of the modern one in the pictures (went on a tour of the building whilst in the city). The modern one is on a par with the MEN, the older one isn't sadly, it is simply a bowl, with several thousand seats, very similar to just about every other 8odd thousand seat arenas in the world.

October 25th, 2005, 08:37 PM	#85
Metrolink Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,738 Likes (Received): 0	The ones in the picture? Maybe the pictures don't do it justice, trust me, it is a great arena, very unique, much better than your typical bowl arena we get in this country, such as Nottingham and Sheffield. What it lacks in size compared to the MEN, it makes up with the excellent bar and restaurant area. It is more than simply an arena, it is a lesuire location.

October 26th, 2005, 06:45 PM	#89
Metrolink Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,738 Likes (Received): 0	No1 - I have visitied many many arenas in europe watching Manchester Storm ice hockey, having been to this one I can honestly say it is the right up there with the best (Turku also in Finland, have a decent one too). Not sure what else you are expecting from an arena. For those who don't give a toss, I think my favorite arena has to be Ambri-Piotta, not for size (probably only holds about 8 thousand, of which most are standing), but it is right up in the Swiss Alps, and the end walls don't go up to the roof, so you can see out of the ends and be looking at huge Alpine mountains covered in snow. The atmosphere at Swiss ice hockey is like the atmosphere at football over here 15 years ago. The Swiss also know how to do beer festivals after ice hockey matches. anyway, bordom lesson over.

October 26th, 2005, 08:00 PM	#90
di Livio Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Trinity Leeds Posts: 7,546 Likes (Received): 49	[QUOTE=Metrolink]The atmosphere at Swiss ice hockey is like the atmosphere at football over here 15 years ago.QUOTE] Do they get darts in the eye, and bricks on your bonce?

October 27th, 2005, 12:52 AM	#91
LegEnd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 122 Likes (Received): 0	At least they can stand up to support there team if they want...

October 28th, 2005, 03:06 AM	#92
Neilynoo The Brick Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 31 Likes (Received): 0	Leeds has needed an arena for decades and here we are STILL debating the issue. The proposal for an arena adjacent to Clarence Dock is by far the most sensible but why do I fear the needs of the city, it's people and the surrounding area will take 2nd place to whatever hidden adgenda the politicians have in mind? We shall see...

November 10th, 2005, 02:08 PM	#95
The Oil Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 4	Unbelievably the council are set to announce that the 10 month study done by PMP, which resulted in identifying the need for an Arena in Leeds, is being followed up by commisioning another study which will report on ways of funding the Arena and the location of it. This wil take at least 6 months. Oh - and PMP apparently recommended Elland Road. Chris - isn't it about time you got yourselves heard properly in the local media? Even the lethargic Yorkshire Evening Post has got a big feature tonight complaining at the interminable procrastination on this.

November 10th, 2005, 04:32 PM	#97
mike68 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Leeds Posts: 128 Likes (Received): 0	I think this would be a good time to call the Council 'to account' on its procrastination and extra money spent, coming so soon after the 12 years and 40 million spent on the Supertram fiasco!!!

November 10th, 2005, 07:44 PM	#98
Loiner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 81 Likes (Received): 0	So now its no Arena, to add to no Supertram, no Ian Simpson, no premier League football team and no Selfridges. Talk about B list.

November 10th, 2005, 09:40 PM	#100
Barking Spider Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 12 Likes (Received): 0	[QUOTE=Neilynoo]Cheers Mike, I just have! I notice Crossgates (the old Barnbow works) is also mooted as a possible site? Crossgates-could-be-a-v.good-long-term-site-for-the-arena.-Already-easily-accessed-via-road/rail,-it-could-have-its-own-railway-station-&-motorway-exit.---(Apologies-for-the-difficult-to-read-post-by-the-way.-Spilt-a-glass-of-wine-over-my-keyboard-a-couple-of-nights-ago-&-many-keys-now-dont-work,-including-space-bar-&-apostrophe!-buying-a-new-one-tomorrow).