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Old July 31st, 2005, 11:33 PM   #261
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AWESOME!!!
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Old July 31st, 2005, 11:42 PM   #262
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calatrava is sooo goood he's the best architect at the moment
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Old August 1st, 2005, 12:13 AM   #263
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Well OK, now that i've seen this one close up, nothing short of spactacular..!!!!!!!!. This tower is wonderful, and I must see what type of structural system this tower uses..?
On Turning Torso, there is a cable/backstay system, that has a cable system on the mast structure, that first, connects to the modules and mast structure, with outrigger or sway arms, then over the mast, and then down to it's own cable stay at ground level.
And this cablestay is seperate from the tower foundation, to carry it's own loads, a very interesting structure indeed..!!!

This tower must be concealing a simular type of system. Back in around 1980 I designed a (for a class grade,) 94 story office tower, for downtown Los Angeles. actually a twin tower structure, connected with a common mast structure, this mast, on it's top, housed a hydraulic piston that when expanded, pulled cables in tension to "tighten" the structure, and the cable's where also anchored seperate from the foundation.

The major prohibiting factor plan,..........Cost.!!! ( I got a "B")
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Old August 1st, 2005, 06:36 AM   #264
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Thanks for the videos. I think this new building is absolutely spectacular. My favorite image is the one looking up from the ground. I love the way it twists into the sky. I think the spire is cool because it is not just a solid piece of material but has an interesting form to it that fits in with the spiral design of the building. And Chi-Town, go easy on Rabid, it was only his first post. He did have a valid point about River North. Too much damn beige concrete is right.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 07:08 AM   #265
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The drill comparison is a good one. Looks like the drill's coming out of the ground.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 07:55 AM   #266
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Its funny how the vids only show the bottom portion of the semi lookablikes in Spain. Hah!

The tower is growing on me. I still think the podium is butt ugly though.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 04:07 PM   #267
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Do we get to replay the great "when does a spire/tower/whatever count when measuring a building's height?" debate...?
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Old August 1st, 2005, 07:09 PM   #268
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holy crap that thing is gorgeous up close.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 11:14 PM   #269
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Great videos.

I didnt see this posted here, so...

VERY NICE.
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Old August 1st, 2005, 11:57 PM   #270
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Impressive tower, I like it!
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 12:05 AM   #271
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Calatrava's Chigago Fordham Spire Design Drawing Concern
Worries over terrorist threats are just one concern about the newly proposed Lake Shore Drive skyscraper.

Aug 01, 2005, 09:00 am PDT - Illinois

Contributed by Brenda Meyer

"Carley and Calatrava claim that the building won't be a target because it is a residential tower and doesn't symbolize anything, as the destroyed World Trade Center did. Yet supertall towers are, by their very nature, symbolic. The extra expense of building tall has to be covered by the extra price for living the high life--and the prestige that justifies such prices."
http://www.planetizen.com/news/item.php?id=17484&rf=rss
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 01:52 AM   #272
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Why Tom ? Mostly because of past misstarts ?

Past mis-starts? There were no mis-starts. . . this /is/ the start. . . it gets 11% from me because that's the chance-in-hell I've given it. . .
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 01:55 AM   #273
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11%? are you ******* out of your gourd tom? jesus christ, it should be plainly obvious to even the most dim-witted individual that this tower's odds stand at least as high as 14.25%.

come on tom, 11%? get real.
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 01:59 AM   #274
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Why Tom ? Mostly because of past misstarts ?

Past mis-starts? There were no mis-starts. . . this /is/ the start. . . it gets 11% from me because that's the chance-in-hell I've given it. . .
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 02:17 AM   #275
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TOP TEN REASONS THIS BABY GETS BUILT

(10) Calatrava's a rock star.

(9) Unique twisting design resists waxy buildup.

(8) Unlike Trump, developer Carley knows when he's due for a haircut.

(7) The billions spent rejigging skyline postcards should keep the national economy afloat for years to come.

(6) eHarmony.com proclaims Chicago and Fordham Spire a 'perfect match' based on 29 love dimensions.

(5) Tower untwists for an additional ten stories when jaded Dubaians come to town.

(4) But wait ! That's not all ! Adjustable drillbit accomodates any number of custom attachments, like the 450-foot eggbeater - ideal for those special occaisions when you need to whip up omelettes for 250,000 on short notice !

(3) Top floor affords Chicagoans a rare opportunity toi see Jesusland on a clear day.

(2) Only people who oppose it live in a place called 'Streeterville.'

(1) Senora Calatrava ain't no hollaback girl !
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 03:25 AM   #276
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TOP TEN REASONS THIS BABY GETS BUILT
Ha!!!

Brilliant list, Dale!
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 04:01 AM   #277
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Dale...that's a clever list you've come up with...kudos.

Hopefully this "baby" does get built!
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 04:23 AM   #278
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Great for Chicago...

Check this out.......


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Old August 2nd, 2005, 04:37 AM   #279
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Absolutely majestic skyline. Not contrived appearing like alot of skylines developing in too much of a hurry (will not mention any names). Left speechless. Thanks sdtj. ---
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 04:38 AM   #280
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God,it looks so narrow and small,just like a 300m tower.they better redo the rendering.
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