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Old January 28th, 2006, 09:13 PM   #501
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i think the height 610m is the same
onyl the roof heigt is now 488m (before 448m?)
610m would be the neight to the tip of the spire, but I'm not too sure that height is set in stone just yet. It's possible that the spire may even go above 2000ft. But yes, for now, the roof height is what has been improved.

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Old January 29th, 2006, 07:10 AM   #502
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not in the USA.....FAA sets the limit at 2000 feet....
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Old January 29th, 2006, 07:15 AM   #503
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^Not to sound like a broken record, but you can in fact build higher than 2000 feet in the USA with proper approval and what not. It's just that it has never been done with a skyscraper before.
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Old January 29th, 2006, 06:01 PM   #504
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wo wo wow
wait a minute
so it is possible
that ic can be +610m?
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Old January 29th, 2006, 06:36 PM   #505
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Just wondering, has there actually been any bad news about this tower so far. ie, things that would make this difficult to get built. To me it seems this has been nothing but a success so far

seems like your negative attitude only applies for dubai's projects...

to me it seems this is nothing but a proposal so far
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Old January 29th, 2006, 07:06 PM   #506
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Everything seemed to be in place for 7 South Dearborn too, but we all know what happened there...
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Old January 29th, 2006, 10:14 PM   #507
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^Not to sound like a broken record, but you can in fact build higher than 2000 feet in the USA with proper approval and what not. It's just that it has never been done with a skyscraper before.

Well, you can do anything with the proper approval.....but that doesn't
mean one will be granted approval ever. The zoning for my lot doesn't allow buildings higher than 35 feet. Please let me know who I can go to
to get approval for my dream 50 foot observation deck. :-)
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Old January 29th, 2006, 11:24 PM   #508
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If STR wants to, he can probably elaborate on this whole 2000 ft deal with the FAA. As far as I know, this rule was mainly targeted at towers in isolated rural communities, not large cities with tall skyscrapers. All I was saying is that it is in fact possible to go above 2000', it just hasn't happened, nor am I suggesting it will happen with Fordham Spire.
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Old January 30th, 2006, 12:53 AM   #509
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Is it true that the US Congress has to approve every building above 2000 ft? I heard that rumor in connection with the long ago proposed Chicago World Trade Center.
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Old January 30th, 2006, 09:14 AM   #510
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Congress, probably not. More like, you'd need to get a waiver or affidavit from the FAA to bypass the 2000' law. Or, you could say you're building a 2000' building, and then, oops! Maybe over-build by a couple of hundred feet "on accident" and just happen to beat out Burj Dubai by several inches. FAA measures after its done:
"Uh sir, this building is nearly six hundred feet higher than you said you were going to build it."
"Oh sorry. I won't do it again."


What are they going to do, make you tear down the building and build it again? :-p
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Old January 30th, 2006, 02:30 PM   #511
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Congress, probably not. More like, you'd need to get a waiver or affidavit from the FAA to bypass the 2000' law. Or, you could say you're building a 2000' building, and then, oops! Maybe over-build by a couple of hundred feet "on accident" and just happen to beat out Burj Dubai by several inches. FAA measures after its done:
"Uh sir, this building is nearly six hundred feet higher than you said you were going to build it."
"Oh sorry. I won't do it again."


What are they going to do, make you tear down the building and build it again? :-p
I believe this happened with a rollercoaster in San Fransisco once. They had a height limit of 150ft and built a near 200ft ride, must have hoped no one would notice. Well they did and they were forced to change it at their own expense, ironically this has supposidly made the ride much better.
There's some details of it and pictures here - http://rcdb.com/id1143.htm

But anyway, back on topic
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Old February 10th, 2006, 11:39 PM   #512
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New update from BVictor that basically says:

1) There is now a hotel that has come aboard Fordham Spire, supposedly a European hotel that currently has no hotels in the US at least.
2) Floorplans aren't complete because they don't know if they're going to use Calatrava's initial designs because they might be too European, or if they'll use DeStefano's plans.
3) When the lease runs out on their current sales center they will permanently move to the new sales center.

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I stopped by the sales center yesterday to get a bit of information.

-The opening of the sales center is still several weeks off. I don't know an exact date, but I was told that articles and things were being put together so that information can be sent out to people on their mailing list.

-I was told that a hotel operator has come aboard. I was not told who it will be, but I was told that it will be a European institution, and I believe that they have yet to open an operation within the United States.

-The floorplan layouts aren't complete yet. Things are I believe taking longer than expected. Remember, each floor plate is different. Also, it's still not know whether DeStefano's or Calatrava interior floorplans will be used. Originaly it was to be Calatrava's, but the layouts were European and not American and they didn't think it would work here. Things are kind of going back and forth.

-The new sales center won't open up for several months. They will somewhat modify their current sales center. The lease runs out in several months, and when it does, then they will make their permanent move to the new sales center.
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Old February 11th, 2006, 04:05 AM   #513
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The Unicorn Horn!

Seriously, it is elegant.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 03:49 AM   #514
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STR did these awesome models that include Fordham Spire, Trump, and Waterview Tower.





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Old February 12th, 2006, 03:58 AM   #515
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do anyone have any updates on the status of this project. i really want this building to be built cuz chicago need more buildings and stores .
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Old February 12th, 2006, 05:08 PM   #516
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Excellent design, except for the spire, which is ridiculous and should be left out. The turning torsos are becoming boring. Calatrava needs to expand his horizon, although his 80 South Street design is rather nice.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 05:16 PM   #517
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Old February 12th, 2006, 11:44 PM   #518
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Old February 13th, 2006, 07:52 AM   #519
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