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View Poll Results: Which city(s) has the best subway and/or elevated transportation system(s)?
New York City - MTA Subway System 30 50.85%
Chicago - CTA El System 15 25.42%
Boston - MBTA The T 7 11.86%
Philadelphia - SEPTA 2 3.39%
New York/New Jersey - PATH 4 6.78%
New Jersey/Philly - PATCO 1 1.69%
San Francisco - BART 7 11.86%
Washington DC - METRO 22 37.29%
Cleveland - RTA Red Line 0 0%
Atlanta - MARTA 5 8.47%
Los Angeles - METRO Red Line 5 8.47%
Miami - Metrorail 3 5.08%
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Old July 26th, 2005, 05:11 AM   #1
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Best Heavy Rail (Subway and/or Elevated) Transportation Systems

Vote for which city or cities have the best heavy rail transit system, whether it be a subway system or an elevated "El" system.

New York City





Chicago





Boston





Philadelphia





NY/NJ - PATH





NJ/Philly - PATCO



San Francisco





Washington, DC





Cleveland





Atlanta





Los Angeles





Miami





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Old July 26th, 2005, 05:25 AM   #2
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NYC got cover. NYC win without doubt.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 08:37 AM   #3
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NYC got cover. NYC win without doubt.

Is this even a contest? NYC has the only system comprable to Europe's mass transit, and it is BY FAR the best in the United States (even it has some gliches). No other city's pathetic system even comes close. WHO in the world is voting LA? That is a complete joke and we know that is the freeway/car capital of the world.

Chicago is a distant second to NYC, and while CTA and Metra are decent when combined, they are too downtown hub and spoke oriented. In Chitown, if you want to go from Lakeview to say, Ohare, you have to take a 15 minute red line train completely out of your way to downtown and then connect with a Blue line train that is probably wasting another 15 minutes to get back to the same north Lakeview lattitude where you started. That or you can take a 20 minute bus ride (but come on, buses?) west from Lakeview to cath up with the middle of the Blue line and save tons of time--but we are talking rail here, right?
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To make this a better poll. You should have excluded New York and probably Chicago as well.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 11:21 AM   #5
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NY is the ONLY metro in the US that can match the coverage and usage of the larger European systems. NY matches or exceeds every European system except London's, and London is head and shoulders above the rest of the Western Hempishere. There is only one system that could make London's look like shit, and it's located across a different ocean.

Chicago, Boston, and DC are the only other ones that have a decent combination of coverage and quality that come close to average European systems.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 02:16 PM   #6
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NYC is definately the best and most comprehensive. Chicago is the second best.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 04:09 PM   #7
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Is this even a contest? NYC has the only system comprable to Europe's mass transit, and it is BY FAR the best in the United States (even it has some gliches). No other city's pathetic system even comes close. WHO in the world is voting LA? That is a complete joke and we know that is the freeway/car capital of the world.

Chicago is a distant second to NYC, and while CTA and Metra are decent when combined, they are too downtown hub and spoke oriented. In Chitown, if you want to go from Lakeview to say, Ohare, you have to take a 15 minute red line train completely out of your way to downtown and then connect with a Blue line train that is probably wasting another 15 minutes to get back to the same north Lakeview lattitude where you started. That or you can take a 20 minute bus ride (but come on, buses?) west from Lakeview to cath up with the middle of the Blue line and save tons of time--but we are talking rail here, right?
Me. Why? Because I've used it quite a few times, buses and trains, and I'll tell you, even though LA's the freeway and car capital, we also got a great bus/train system. They work really well together, and they get you where you gotta be. You know, LA and NY have very similar systems. Probably the only difference is that most white people are scared or don't like riding the Blue Line because it's the "ghetto" line(it runs through Long Beach, Compton, Watts, and South LA). And one thing you gotta big up LA for is even though many people ride the trains, they still keep the trains and stations pretty clean. And if you don't believe me, look at the system map: http://mta.net/images/System_Map.pdf
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Old July 26th, 2005, 04:55 PM   #8
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NYC for sure. Chicago, DC and Boston are decent too. Philly kind of. Here in Miami it's an absolute joke.
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Old July 26th, 2005, 09:40 PM   #9
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NYC, Chicago, DC, SF.

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1) New York City




2) Chicago a distant second.
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Baltimore also has a heavy rail subway system.

New York by far, there's no point in having a poll like this as long as NYC is on it.
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Old July 27th, 2005, 03:14 AM   #13
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well considering i've only ridden on four of them, (cleveland, chicago, nyc, Dc)I don't think i'm fit to vote.

However, cleveland does receive a * next to it, because it was the first city in the US to have its airport directly linked to its downtown via rail. (someone correct me if i'm wrong)
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Baltimore also has a heavy rail subway system.
I knew that! Somehow my head went blank for a minute -- I forgot about putting Bmore (MTA Metro Subway) in the poll.

Anyways, NYC and Chicago top the list as top notch rail systems with 99% coverage of both cities. Philly is third despite having only two heavy rail lines in the system -- except the density.

But, honestly, I am a sucka for modern day rail systems because I lived in the Bay Area. So for me BART tops my list as the top notch rail system in the West Coast and in the modern rail system age, with DC Metrorail second up. My other pics are Atl and Mia.

LA has yet to finish building under Wilshire from the WEstern station all the way out to UCLA and the Ocean, and I don't give a damn if Bev Hills don't want it, just tunnel it and don't build a station in those city limits.
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Old July 27th, 2005, 04:23 AM   #15
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DC and New York are a tie with me.
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Old August 2nd, 2005, 08:40 AM   #17
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Chicago's biggest issues are 1) there's only two crosstown east-west lines, and they both come straight out of downtown, making travel from, for example, the far North Side to the far Northwest Side an enormous hassle, and 2) not all lines run 24 hours, which is really a problem on Sundays, when they stop particularly early (1:30 or 2 in the morning, for a lot of lines; usually they go until 4 or so).
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Washington D.C. has a really nice and effective subway system.
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Old August 5th, 2005, 11:47 PM   #19
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DC! The trains ate on schedule most of the time and the interiors are imaculate!
Nice stations too.
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The more I think about it, the more I feel the gap between NY and DC is smaller than I had previously thought. DCs is getting more and more ineffective though due to sprawl. They are working on improving it though, which is good.
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