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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:46 PM   #81
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Bit bland. Green tartan carpets also. The interior is not as old as some might think. Those famous snob screens look like modern facsimiles to me. At least they bothered I suppose. Surely this pub was multi-roomed until the 70s perhaps. Better and nearby is the art deco-style, and not ruined, Duke of York. And better as a place to drink (or eat in the unfortunate modern fashion) are the Perseverance, the Marquis Cornwallis, the Harrison (C20th Kings Cross estate pub gone gastro) or the Queens Head off Gray's Inn Road. All more or less mangled (although the QH less so) but one is not invited falsely to think they they aren't and the clientele consist of a widely variety of folk than the Lamb, which is dominated by whiffy London business types in their late middle years bitching.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #82
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The thing about London pubs was/is that there was wider mix of people,especially round the central area, east end/city in particular.
You took the words out of my mouth. To be fair to London, where I've lived also but liked less than you did, their pubs do indeed have more of a mix. Right in the centre however, they can be anonymous. Let's face it though London is seldom the most convivial place.

Also lacking nowadays at least the the Liverpool-style ald fellas' pub. Similar blokes down their died out/moved out/been priced out I guess.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:58 PM   #83
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You took the words out of my mouth. To be fair to London, where I've lived also but liked less than you did, their pubs do indeed have more of a mix. Right in the centre however, they can be anonymous. Let's face it though London is seldom the most convivial place.

Also lacking nowadays at least the the Liverpool-style ald fellas' pub. Similar blokes down their died out/moved out/been priced out I guess.
I used to like Whitechapel rd, the London Hospital. A mix of locals and young doctors. You get a decent conversation going there,also round the back of the hospital itself, bit eerie, always reminded of John Merrick(the elephant man)
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Old January 18th, 2011, 12:05 AM   #84
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I went for a drink there once although back in the 90s. Big pub straight across the road from Whitechapel Tube. Was impressed by the large number of pretty nurses amongst other things, although I was a younger man then.

Nowadays I find few things bring me greater cheer than a pub that allows a dog in. Not that I have a dog myself mind but y'know some else's friendly hound, snuffling around, vaccuuming peanuts and interacting with oneself and other customers.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 12:18 AM   #85
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I went for a drink there once although back in the 90s. Big pub straight across the road from Whitechapel Tube. Was impressed by the large number of pretty nurses amongst other things, although I was a younger man then.

Nowadays I find few things bring me greater cheer than a pub that allows a dog in. Not that I have a dog myself mind but y'know some else's friendly hound, snuffling around, vaccuuming peanuts and interacting with oneself and other customers.
Well the nurses were a factor agree about the hound but as a non-drinker i'm seldom found in pubs these days.(mind you i left London in 95 and i honestly avoid it like the plague,even though i have family there.)

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Old January 18th, 2011, 02:44 AM   #86
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You took the words out of my mouth. To be fair to London, where I've lived also but liked less than you did, their pubs do indeed have more of a mix. Right in the centre however, they can be anonymous. Let's face it though London is seldom the most convivial place.

Also lacking nowadays at least the the Liverpool-style ald fellas' pub. Similar blokes down their died out/moved out/been priced out I guess.
There were a number of those back st local pubs around Bethnal Green rd. They used to attract the voyeuristic middle class. The types that used to smoke roll ups and sit at the bar and eavesdrop.Little did they know, the locals thought they were 'Old Bill'

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Old January 18th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #87
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Nowadays I find few things bring me greater cheer than a pub that allows a dog in. Not that I have a dog myself mind but y'know some else's friendly hound, snuffling around, vaccuuming peanuts and interacting with oneself and other customers.
The Dispensary (Renshaw Street) let me take my dog in. He’s too old to walk down there these days. But I will always be really grateful to them [the proprietors] for letting me bring him in – there’s nothing like drinking with good friends. Good boozer, that.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 03:42 AM   #88
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I went for a drink there once although back in the 90s. Big pub straight across the road from Whitechapel Tube. Was impressed by the large number of pretty nurses amongst other things, although I was a younger man then.

Nowadays I find few things bring me greater cheer than a pub that allows a dog in. Not that I have a dog myself mind but y'know some else's friendly hound, snuffling around, vaccuuming peanuts and interacting with oneself and other customers.
Awayo, for God's sake, it's one 'c' in vacuuming are you talking about the dog there or did you meet me in the London Hospital after my advances to one of the nurses had been knocked back
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Old January 18th, 2011, 08:35 PM   #89
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There were a number of those back st local pubs around Bethnal Green rd. They used to attract the voyeuristic middle class. The types that used to smoke roll ups and sit at the bar and eavesdrop.Little did they know, the locals thought they were 'Old Bill'
Now the middle class just watch 'Secret Millionaire' instead. Off topic here but whilst on the east end i also remember the 'Jack The Ripper Walks' round the corner from Whitechapel. There was actually a pub called the 'Jack The Ripper' on Commercial St in the vicinity of the murders. Tower Hamlets Council forced a name change.

What is the psychology of someone who wants to walk in the footsteps of a serial killer. Relive the vicious murders of tragic victims. The darkest recesses of the mind are much more scarey than any serial killer.

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Old January 18th, 2011, 11:22 PM   #90
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Off topic here but whilst on the east end i also remember the 'Jack The Ripper Walks' round the corner from Whitechapel. There was actually a pub called the 'Jack The Ripper' on Commercial St in the vicinity of the murders. Tower Hamlets Council forced a name change.

What is the psychology of someone who wants to walk in the footsteps of a serial killer. Relive the vicious murders of tragic victims. The darkest recesses of the mind are much more scarey than any serial killer.
That might have interested me,but know you have put me off and I feel I need to get my mind checked

Back on topic I like the Baltic fleet but apart from the outside paint job I cannot agree with Evertonian's comment that it has been very well looked after, Inside I doubt a penny has been spent on it for years.
There has been some sympathetic re-furbishments namely The Railway Tithebarn st and more recently The Excelsior on Dale St.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 11:30 PM   #91
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Didnae know about the Excelsior, Camb. Thanks for the heads up there. Last I'd heard it was closed and before that it appeared to be in terminal decline. Have to pop in.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #92
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Bit bland. Green tartan carpets also. The interior is not as old as some might think. Those famous snob screens look like modern facsimiles to me. At least they bothered I suppose. Surely this pub was multi-roomed until the 70s perhaps. Better and nearby is the art deco-style, and not ruined, Duke of York. And better as a place to drink (or eat in the unfortunate modern fashion) are the Perseverance, the Marquis Cornwallis, the Harrison (C20th Kings Cross estate pub gone gastro) or the Queens Head off Gray's Inn Road. All more or less mangled (although the QH less so) but one is not invited falsely to think they they aren't and the clientele consist of a widely variety of folk than the Lamb, which is dominated by whiffy London business types in their late middle years bitching.
You are such a queen.
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Old January 18th, 2011, 11:35 PM   #93
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The Lamb was multi-roomed in the 80s. At that point the 'business' types you speak of hadn't discovered it. It was peopled by a wide variety of locals - which at that time included a large squatting community.

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Troll.

And by that I don't mean anything to do with the internet. I mean that you are monstrous, misshapen, green-skinned and slimy and live under a bridge.
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Didnae know about the Excelsior, Camb. Thanks for the heads up there. Last I'd heard it was closed and before that it appeared to be in terminal decline. Have to pop in.
Yes went in just before xmas and just over a week ago -very nice.
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Troll.

And by that I don't mean anything to do with the internet. I mean that you are monstrous, misshapen, green-skinned and slimy and live under a bridge.
You still looking in that mirror of yours?
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I was picking my son up from Hope Street on Thursday evening last week and noticed that the ornate Philharmonic pub gates were padlocked shut - this at about 7pm. Driving past yesterday afternoon, it again looked as if it was closed. Anyone heard/know anything?

(I then began to fantasise that, if it's in trouble, the Everyman Bistro lot could take it over. But that's how baseless rumours start, so I'll keep that to myself).
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Old June 27th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #98
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About a year ago, Camra publications were reporting that the pubco, Nicholsons (or the evil mega-combine behind that brand, whatever that may be) planned to close the Phil for an extensive refurb. This sounded good. Their recent spruce up of the Wellington on the Strand in London was very well done.

I was hoping for the cheesy (60s) substitutions of "Brahms and Litz" for the Smoke Room and News Room and "Grand Lounge" (shoudn't that be "grande"?) for the Billiard room would go as well as the crappy, anachronistic mirrors above the fireplace there. However, they put it on the back burner. Maybe business projections have declined.

Or perhaps the refurb is back on. Dunno.

Also, for whatever reason, the pub has closed down for the odd day over the last few months before opening again. Not sure what that's all about.

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Old June 28th, 2011, 03:44 PM   #99
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I scoped it out earlier. The Phil is still closed but there was a sign on of the doors reading 'wet paint' and signs of work going on inside. It looks like it is getting a spruce up but probably not the major renovation promised a year ago.

The fixtures and fittings were looking a bit careworn and so it needs a bit of tlc but I imagine it will be open again in a few days. If a big job were planned, they'd probably have signs outside explaining why the pub was closed.
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Cheers Awayo. Well scoped.
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