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Old March 20th, 2007, 07:00 AM   #161
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The building is turning out good. But it could've been great. They totally ****ed it up when they reduced the void from 4 floors to 3. Check out these original renderings from page 1 to the current pics and see what I'm talking about.
I agree. The porportions are not as good with only a 3 story void and it it is less noticeable, particularly from the ground, which is where most people will view MoMo. The facade looks guady or blocky to me or something, can't put my finger on it. I have my reservations about it. When it's all done, maybe I will like it though.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 08:09 PM   #162
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Things will improve substaintially when they remove all the white protective film from the facade.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 11:14 PM   #163
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Old March 28th, 2007, 06:55 AM   #164
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The base is sort of ho-hum, but, the foliage on top of level four should be nice - it's not something we get to see much of from street level in Chicago.
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Old March 28th, 2007, 05:21 PM   #165
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I got to be honest, I love that foliage. I was talking before about how I think the top could have been better. One idea that I had was to add some trees up there. Hopefully they would be visible from the street so they would have to be decent size. Forget spires, forget structural decoration, give me some green. Maybe they couldn't do that because of the way the mechanical systems were designed and such, but I think it would be incredible. If there was any building to do it on, I think it should have been MoMo, since there are already trees on the 4th level. We want to be known as a green city, what a statement this would make.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 09:40 PM   #166
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Can we change the thread title now to Joffrey Tower instead of the corny marketing title?

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The terrace (where the 'hole' is cut out of)



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Old April 5th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #167
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I have to agree that the trees are definitely something that will enhance the base. Maybe thats whats missing right now that I liked so much in the rendering. And the protective covering doesn't help either, guess Ill just have to be more patient.
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Old April 6th, 2007, 07:39 AM   #168
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I think if the building was 20 stories taller I'd like it a bit more. I just think the extra height would make it remarkibly more attractive for the skyline.
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Old April 6th, 2007, 05:39 PM   #169
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I agree it's a great filler building that has absolutely no impact on the skyline.
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Old April 6th, 2007, 05:44 PM   #170
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I'll reserve judgment until it's completely cladded and the protective coating is removed from the glass. But I do agree that it won't have much of an impact on the skyline. There aren't many sightlines on this building. Daley Plaza offers a nice vantage point, but that view will eventually be blocked as construction at B37 progresses. Regardless of how it turns out, I'd rather have a 400 foot building with an average design than a Walgreen's at the one of downtown's busiest corners.
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Old April 7th, 2007, 08:40 PM   #171
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Old April 8th, 2007, 06:10 AM   #172
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I think the tower is perfection. Twenty more stories would have wrecked it IMO - too lanky.

Sadly, it won't be visible from anywhere but the immediate area, but, that doesn't make it any less of an achievement.
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Old April 9th, 2007, 04:24 AM   #173
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Don't you think making the void a little bigger would improve the building? Just curious.
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Old April 10th, 2007, 03:25 AM   #174
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Anyone know whats up with the cladding? The window situation has been the same for a month. This shot from last month shows the cladding exactly as it is today. Nothing above the diagonal brace level (8th floor) yet.

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Here's the scoop on the windows. Bill Smith (Smithfield) (through a broker) purchased the windows from China. The glazing contractor, responsible for installation only, on site has submitted numerous 'change orders' because of the dubious quality of the windows, and the re-work involved. (I had the same problems with Chinese windows at the Optima job in Skokie) Smith thought these charges were unwarranted. He automatically thinks ANY backcharges are unwarranted. My experience with him at Erie on the Park, Kingsbury on the Park and Nordstom Rack/Walgreen's at State and Washington bear that out. So, depending on who you hear it from, the glazing contractor walked off - tired of Smith's s**t, or Smith threw them off. Either way, it is best to cut your losses and GO when dealing with him.
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Old April 11th, 2007, 04:48 AM   #176
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Here's the scoop on the windows. Bill Smith (Smithfield) (through a broker) purchased the windows from China. The glazing contractor, responsible for installation only, on site has submitted numerous 'change orders' because of the dubious quality of the windows, and the re-work involved. (I had the same problems with Chinese windows at the Optima job in Skokie) Smith thought these charges were unwarranted. He automatically thinks ANY backcharges are unwarranted. My experience with him at Erie on the Park, Kingsbury on the Park and Nordstom Rack/Walgreen's at State and Washington bear that out. So, depending on who you hear it from, the glazing contractor walked off - tired of Smith's s**t, or Smith threw them off. Either way, it is best to cut your losses and GO when dealing with him.
So... any idea where we stand now? Are they going to be forced to find a new supplier for the glazing?

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Don't you think making the void a little bigger would improve the building? Just curious.
I did prefer the void at four levels instead of three, but, as far as the overall massing of the tower is concerned - I think it's perfect the way it is. I stated waaaaaay back in this thread (somewhere) that I actually preferred the shorter version that we ended up with to the 40-something story rendition that was originally proposed.
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Here's the scoop on the windows. Bill Smith (Smithfield) (through a broker) purchased the windows from China. The glazing contractor, responsible for installation only, on site has submitted numerous 'change orders' because of the dubious quality of the windows, and the re-work involved. (I had the same problems with Chinese windows at the Optima job in Skokie) Smith thought these charges were unwarranted. He automatically thinks ANY backcharges are unwarranted. My experience with him at Erie on the Park, Kingsbury on the Park and Nordstom Rack/Walgreen's at State and Washington bear that out. So, depending on who you hear it from, the glazing contractor walked off - tired of Smith's s**t, or Smith threw them off. Either way, it is best to cut your losses and GO when dealing with him.
Thanks for the info fe.

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Old April 11th, 2007, 04:49 AM   #178
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From Saturday: (sorry for the crap-ass shot composition - I was relegated to using my phone so I didn't have any zoom or wide-angle to work with)

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Old April 11th, 2007, 04:54 AM   #179
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That pic of the void is awesome! Your phone takes pretty good pictures.
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From Saturday: (sorry for the crap-ass shot composition - I was relegated to using my phone so I didn't have any zoom or wide-angle to work with)

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This is an excellent shot. So, how is the building planning on using this unique space. I know there are some trees in the renders, but will there be a cafe or something?

Too bad about the window problems. Apparently, probs like this aren't as uncommon as you'd imagine.
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