Will Central valley be longest city in world?

[bay_area]

Im merely stating the facts. Is that upsetting to you? This isnt about where the population growth is coming from, Its as if your arguing something that Im not even talking about.

[bay_area]

But since you bring up poverty, let's talk about it.
Here is a listing of California's counties and the percentage of families living in poverty.
California 10.6
Alameda 7.7
Alpine 12.0
Amador 6.1
Butte 12.2
Calaveras 8.7
Colusa 13.0
Contra Costa 5.4
Del Norte 16.4
El Dorado 5.0
Fresno 17.6
Glenn 12.5
Humboldt 12.9
Imperial 19.4
Inyo 9.3
Kern 16.8
Kings 15.8
Lake 12.9
Lassen 11.1
Los Angeles 14.4
Madera 15.9
Marin 3.7
Mariposa 10.5
Mendocino 10.9
Merced 16.9
Modoc 16.4
Mono 6.3
Monterey 9.7
Napa 5.6
Nevada 5.5
Orange 7.0
Placer 3.9
Plumas 9.0
Riverside 10.7
Sacramento 10.3
San Benito 6.7
San Bernardino 12.6
San Diego 8.9
San Francisco 7.8
San Joaquin 13.5
San Luis Obispo 6.8
San Mateo 3.5
Santa Barbara 8.5
Santa Clara 4.9
Santa Cruz 6.7
Shasta 11.3
Sierra 9.0
Siskiyou 14.0
Solano 6.1
Sonoma 4.7
Stanislaus 12.3
Sutter 12.1
Tehama 13.0
Trinity 14.1
Tulare 18.8
Tuolumne 8.1
Ventura 6.4
Yolo 9.5
Yuba 16.3

Apparently the vast majority of people are doing okay-wouldnt you agree?

[612bv3]

The double digits are mostly in the Valley.

[Caliguy2005]

They need to start building more Skyscrapers in the Central Valley to conserve more farmland.

[enigma99a]

Originally Posted by Caliguy2005

They need to start building more Skyscrapers in the Central Valley to conserve more farmland.

Yep. Somewhere besides Sacramento.

[StevenW]

Originally Posted by ValiBoi

monitors... seriously that's like the devils work or something

LOL!

[ltsmotorsport]

Originally Posted by enigma99a

Yep. Somewhere besides Sacramento.

Yeah, I like what we're doing with all our projects, but other central valley cities need to join in.

And the whole Redding to Bakersfield scenario will never happen. Many cities have put in green belts to make sure it doesn't happen, there are many wildlife reserves that have endangered species, and the rice and fruit business is too big.

[urbanaturalist]

That would be bad to takeover that fertile pesticide/insecticide ridden beautiful piece of land with sprawling homes and shopping centers.

[VanSeaPor]

Don't do it. Instead the growth should be funneling in more dense residential projects in Sacremento and Fresno. It would be nice to see cities like those gain population, but lose area. It would also raise quality of life

[VansTripp]

Originally Posted by sequoias

They are actually mostly international migration and the high birthrates because California has so many people with poverty. Not many move to California from other state, more than 100,000 people who live in California move away to other states. Those are the breakdown of the total migration Ya can't argue with that

Nah, most positive domestic migration (moving from other state to CA) are around under 200,000 per year depends on population, mostly young families are moving to CA from other state. Inland Empire will be only highest positive domestic migration in CA. I saw alot of young white people in LA, much more young white people today than in 90's.

[ryskillz]

first, you need people, and barely anyone lives in the central valley. so no, it will probably never connect. and if it does, so many other cities will be bigger by that point.

[centralcali19]

Originally Posted by Caliguy2005

They need to start building more Skyscrapers in the Central Valley to conserve more farmland.

Yea the central valley should start building upwards rather than outwards into the world's most productive lands...Downtown Fresno and Bakersfield, are good location to built higher and slow sprawl a lil bit..

[CrazyAboutCities]

I have to say something here...

I was born in Bakersfield and visit Bakersfield alot when I lived in southern California because I got relatives that still living there. After I left California for Oregon then Seattle, I visit there few times a year. Bakersfield is growing as crazy lately... Thousands and thousands of new homes are popping up everywhere in Bakersfield metro area. Also many times I drive down to Bakersfield from Oregon or Seattle, I seen millions of new homes popping up from Sacramento to Bakersfield. I believe that Central Valley will be longest city in the world one day if this boom continues. To be honest with you guys, I am not very fond of Bakersfield or any Central California cities because its very dirty, polluted, and health issues. Also most of Central California cities are ugly and unattractive. I still don't understand why thousands and thousands of people are moving there for only ONE REASON... CHEAP HOMES! I tried hard to convince my relatives to leave Bakersfield... Unforunately they loves Bakersfield too much to leave. I don't want to come back to Bakersfield again but I have to because of my relatives that I love and care about. I am stuck.

Only thing really messed up about Bakersfield... Bakersfield continues spreading far out and ignoring the exisiting neighborhoods. Once new shopping center built... About two years later, its became empty and ghetto. All new homes got built and look nicer... Few years later, its falling apart... People in Bakersfield kept moving far and farther to the suburbs to keep their children in better school district, nicer neighborhoods, and better shopping centers and churches.

Only city in Central California I think its looks nicer and attractive... Sacramento because that city knows how to take good care of its city than Frenso, Bakersfield, Shafter, Stockton, Redding, and Red Bluff.

[ajmstilt]

well since you're not talking about a single city, but a string of cities...

wouldn't the northeastern megolopis be longer...

by the time this centreal vally thing happens would the northeast meholops be form boston to maybe atlanta?

but how long is chicagoland? Miami?

hell how long is LA east to west?

[nedolessej197]

I wish Sacramento was bigger, but this sounds unlikely.

[CrazyAboutCities]

Huh? Sacramento is getting bigger every time I drive pass on I-5.

[stepper77]

I can see Sacramento, Stockton and Modesto growing into each other. I grew up in the foothills (Grass Valley) and have relatives in Modesto who I would visit all the time when I was a kid (late 80s/early 90s). I remember going down Hwy 99 and there used to be a large gap of open land/farmland between Sacramento and Elk Grove, between Elk Grove and Galt, Galt and Stockton, etc. Now there is continuous development from Sacramento to Galt and not much of a gap to Stockton. And the sprawl continues west towards the Bay Area with Manteca, Lathrop and Tracy (ugh) growing into each other and ever closer the Altamont.

I think there are significant gaps with open farmland from Modesto to Fresno and Fresno to Bakersfield and there is a large gap between Sacramento and Redding (though Marysville/Yuba City & Chico are in between). So, I can see the Central Valley being a string of cities, but, not one large, continuous urban area.

But, I do think our legislature should take more aggressive action to preserve farmland and open space in the valley and force these cities to build up, rather than out. Sacramento is, as many mentioned, one of the few cities making a real effort to bring people to live closer downtown, but, unfortunately that hasn't kept up with the outward growth in the suburbs either.

I just don't see how it can be done without increasing the already inflated values of housing which is pushing all the largely middle class families to the urban fringe in the first place. As well as changing the mentalities of those people who pine for their single family, detached house in cookie cutter developments, surrounded by big box retailers, ample parking and easy freeway access. It won't be easy.

[pwalker]

Interesting debate.

I remember back in the 70's driving into Sacramento from the north and it was all farmlands until just about downtown. Not so much anymore.

I think it is inevitable that this region will continue to grow. The question is HOW it will grow. There needs to be a balance between density and the "California-style" growth. I don't see a continuous city anytime soon, but the boundaries between farmland and cities/suburbs will shrink. The leaders of the area will try to maintain a balance.

[Robert Stark]

it is the fastest growing region, and will only grow faster with the highspeed rail.



http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show....php?p=3045066

[krudmonk]

Originally Posted by Robert Stark

it is the fastest growing region, and will only grow faster with the highspeed rail.



http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show....php?p=3045066

I hope this becomes a reality and encourages development to be concentrated around train stations in city cores.