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Old February 1st, 2007, 01:28 PM   #381
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Thanks for the confirmation.

I'll read the report later if I get the chance, but what I think now is that there will be quite a few reservations, and that the decision is really still on a knife edge.

The last report to the council was met with a number of questions about why certain aspects hadnt been addressed satisfactorily, so there are still some things to iron out........
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Old February 1st, 2007, 02:13 PM   #382
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Old February 1st, 2007, 04:16 PM   #383
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I may have missed this, but 48 month build with retail opening in 2012 (5 years away!) where will we be in the shopping rankings by then?
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Old February 1st, 2007, 04:38 PM   #384
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I may have missed this, but 48 month build with retail opening in 2012 (5 years away!) where will we be in the shopping rankings by then?
Don't forget Broadgate, although it isn't anything like the size of Eastgate, it's still quite a significant development.

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Old February 1st, 2007, 06:07 PM   #385
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I may have missed this, but 48 month build with retail opening in 2012 (5 years away!) where will we be in the shopping rankings by then?
Ahmedd, be careful what you say or people like Subliving and No. 1 will be down on you like a ton of bricks for being so pessimistic ! But of course you are right ! di Livio mentions Broadgate - but that will only be replacing the much missed Lewis's/Allders.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 09:24 PM   #387
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Thanks for the confirmation.
The last report to the council was met with a number of questions about why certain aspects hadnt been addressed satisfactorily, so there are still some things to iron out........
I checked and it's the only scheme on the agenda -would be odd if they allowed a special meeting only to turn it down! I reckon it's a dead cert.
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I thought the reasoning behind this being the only item on the agenda was because it would take so long to discuss and come to an agreement.
There is an awful lot to talk about and there are a number of very good points raised in opposition by various people. I dont think it will be a case of turning up and saying "yep it all sounds wonderful."
I'm all for the scheme and think it's vital for the city to get this done. However, we dont want to look back in 20 years and think, "you know what, why DID we knock down that old building to build this glorified mall?"
It needs to be outstanding and something that everyone can be proud of. I think the proposals are good, and I was impressed when I had a closer look, but there are small issues to be resolved still.
Hopefully it will achieve outline planning and the issues can be resolved at detail level.
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I thought the reasoning behind this being the only item on the agenda was because it would take so long to discuss and come to an agreement.
There is an awful lot to talk about and there are a number of very good points raised in opposition by various people. I dont think it will be a case of turning up and saying "yep it all sounds wonderful."
I'm all for the scheme and think it's vital for the city to get this done. However, we dont want to look back in 20 years and think, "you know what, why DID we knock down that old building to build this glorified mall?"
It needs to be outstanding and something that everyone can be proud of. I think the proposals are good, and I was impressed when I had a closer look, but there are small issues to be resolved still.
Hopefully it will achieve outline planning and the issues can be resolved at detail level.
This is such a large scheme that it may be very difficult, if not impossible, to address all the different concerns involved and satisfy all objections. I can foresee much further delay - though I hope I am wrong (is that positive enough?)
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Old February 4th, 2007, 05:45 PM   #390
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A widgy new image of Eastgate.
If only the convention was taking place in London. Anyone in Cannes anytime soon?

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Retail and regeneration key focus for Location Leeds
8 January 2007


Leeds will be displaying its impressive retail credentials at MIPIM 2007 where it will take a dedicated exhibition stand for the first time.

The city will showcase plans for the Eastgate & Harewood Quarter, a £700 million retail-led development, which will create over 1 million sq ft of brand new retail space in Leeds. A joint venture by Hammerson and Leeds-based Town Centre Securities, the development will reinforce the city’s position as one of the UK’s prime shopping destinations.

A planning application has already been submitted for the landmark scheme, anchored by a new 260,000 sq ft John Lewis department store and designed by internationally renowned architect Sir Terry Farrell. Work is expected to start on site in 2009 with completion scheduled for 2012.

Location Leeds, the marketing umbrella under which the city promotes itself at MIPIM, will also be showcasing Holbeck Urban Village, a major regeneration programme which aims to create a new business and residential quarter close to the city centre.

The urban village is expected to attract investment of up to £800 million and work has already started on Greenbank, a residential development of 700 apartments by George Wimpey City. Early in 2007, Isis will start work on a mixed-use redevelopment of Granary Wharf featuring three buildings set in a waterfront location and combining apartments, a hotel and retail space.

Elsewhere within the urban village, work has started on phase two of the Round Foundry, a mixed use development featuring buildings designed to meet the highest environmental standards. In a unique collaboration, city living specialist K.W.Linfoot Plc and design-led property developer YOO have also started on the first phase of a new residential development at Manor Mills.
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...and work has already started on Greenbank, a residential development of 700 apartments by George Wimpey City...
If only...
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Old February 5th, 2007, 08:06 PM   #392
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they defently made a mistake there
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Old February 5th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #393
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they defently made a mistake there
they probably just meant the marketing suite. Good to see Leeds get such a good centrepiece at MIPIM. All our property guys go out there for the booze and connections, damn them.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 12:13 PM   #394
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there are still some things to iron out........
but................ it's a goer........
Outline planning achieved, work to strart 2009 hopefully.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 02:00 PM   #395
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but................ it's a goer........
Outline planning achieved, work to strart 2009 hopefully.
Cool.

Not especially relevant, but i did notice CABE or RIBA had mentioned the split level in the galleria seemed more like a conventional shopping centre, like the Bullring, rather than a large, covered public space like the Galleria Vittorio Emanuelle in Milan. I'd prefer more public space tbh. If you look at Paradise Street in L'pool, they have a large green space in the middle of the development, oh, and a tower designed by Cesar Pelli.



Any chance of the individual buildings in Eastgate being designed by someone a bit more impressive than Carey Jones or DLA?
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Old February 9th, 2007, 02:33 PM   #396
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Hammerson, Town Centre Sec says awarded Leeds' project planning permission
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LONDON (AFX) - Hammerson PLC and Town Centre Securities PLC's said they have been awarded planning permission by Leeds Council to regenerate a major site in the centre of Leeds.

Hammerson and Town Centre Securities submitted a planning application in July 2006 and a development agreement for the scheme was signed with the council in December last year.

Construction is due to begin in 2009, with completion scheduled for 2012. The total cost of the development is estimated at 675 mln stg, of which Hammerson's 90 pct share would amount to 610 mln stg.

The 100,000 m2 retail-led scheme is being developed in a 90:10 joint venture between Hammerson and Leeds-based property company Town Centre Securities. The scheme will be anchored by a 24,000 m2 John Lewis store and will include over 100 retail units.
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are there any caveats/amendments? (i really hope they have to keep the chinatown) or is it too early a stage for that sort of thing...?
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£700m city complex gets go-ahead

Planned new John Lewis store in Leeds.


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A £700m complex that will create up to 5,000 jobs and change the face of Leeds city centre has been given the go-ahead.
The huge development will include a John Lewis department store and more than 100 smaller shops.
It will be a major boost to the city's reputation as one of the UK's top shopping destinations.
Members of the council's city centre plans panel last night approved in principle the scheme.
It also includes 600 homes, 2,700 car parking spaces, offices, a gym, cinema, medical centre, creche, hotel, a church drop-in centre, restaurants, cafes and bars.
They gave planning officials authority to formally approve the application once conditions covering a range of issues including transport, highways and affordable housing had been agreed with the developer, the Leeds Partnership – a joint venture between Hammerson UK Properties and Town Centre Securities.
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Details of the project will now be sent to Local Government and Communities secretary Ruth Kelly.
Providing she does not "call in" the planning permission for a public inquiry, work could start early next year and it is expected to take about four years.
The development will be built on a 25-acre site taking in land either side of Eastgate and bounded by Vicar Lane, New York Street, St Peter's Street, George Street and Harewood Street.
A key feature will be a new arcade which will run from Vicar Lane to the John Lewis store and be half the length of Briggate and twice the height of the Victoria Quarter.
The so-called "bookend" buildings at the bottom of Eastgate will be retained, although re-located 12 metres further up Eastgate.
The buildings on the north side of the street designed by Sir Reginald Blomfield will be retained, but the 1960s built terrace on the south side will be demolished.
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Eastgate will be pedestrianised and a new public square created around the former petrol station, now a fountain.
Kevin Grady, Leeds Civic Trust director, said the trust supported many aspects of the plan but was concerned about the amount of demolition, particularly of Circle House and the Lyons works building. He said the scheme did not contain enough green space.
He added it could "destroy the embryonic Chinatown that was developing in the area."
Other objectors said the site of the John Lewis store was outside the city's prime shopping area and they were concerned at the impact it might have on the city's traditional shopping heart.
John Richards, Chief Executive of developers Hammerson plc, said: "This is a significant milestone for the Eastgate and Harewood project."
Edward Ziff, chairman and chief executive at Town Centre Securities, added: "The regeneration will bring a rundown area of the city into public use, by providing a fantastic living, working and recreational environment."
Leader of Leeds City Council and executive member for development, Coun Andrew Carter, said: "We are confident we now have a scheme that is one of the most bold and innovative developments Leeds has seen for many years."
But Coun Jim McKenna (Labour, Armley) said the development was not sufficiently well connected to Quarry Hill and voted to reject the application.
The panel agreed four to two to approve the planning principle.

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I said it wasnt cut and dried..............the main thing is it's approved though.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 03:11 PM   #399
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Good news regarding the development of Eastgate. When is it planned to commence is it 2009 or will it begin sooner than this? Couldn't understand the following quote though:

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But Coun Jim McKenna (Labour, Armley) said the development was not sufficiently well connected to Quarry Hill and voted to reject the application.
I wonder why he blocked the application surely the development of Eastgate would bridge the gap between the city core and Quarry Hill and should enable spin off developments to occur there which have been ludicrously long in achiving.

Also will we hear anything regarding any other anchor tenants for Eastgate other than John Lewis as I remember that there is to be two department stores for this site with Selfridges originally to occupy the other site. With Selfridges now cancelling their expansion wouldn't we see someone else come along perhaps a relocation of House of Fraser which I read were intreseted in doing or perhaps someone more interesting? Still quite critical regarding the demolition of the China Town as I believe much of the buildings there should certainly be retained as opposed to demolished and would add so much character to this development.
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