Piccadilly Basin - Page 8

highriser · September 6th, 2006, 09:13 PM

I wish that shitty building ( Brownfield Mill ) facing IVLA , will get demolished its in a terrible state , surely the council can inforce something to be done with it .

markydeedrop · September 7th, 2006, 07:15 PM

Hey highriser that building is both our past and future, it's OK. I'm not sure it's going anywhere soon.

Bluegate74 · September 8th, 2006, 09:49 PM

That mill is over 100 yrs, old and with a little imagination, could be restored and converted into a fantastic block of flats or office, like Royal Mills across the street. Dont write something off just because its sem-derelict.

Christ if the council planning team were made up of philistines like you (which many of them are) then the heritage of this city doesn't have a cat in hells chance. New and bigger is not always better you know. Thats what some of the guys contributing to this site need to get into their heads. You get sick of comments from guys stating "when are we gonna get a 40 storey or my city need towers" etc. etc. etc. Talk about penis envy.

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Originally Posted by highriser

I wish that shitty building ( Brownfield Mill ) facing IVLA , will get demolished its in a terrible state , surely the council can inforce something to be done with it .

The Longford · September 8th, 2006, 11:00 PM

Over 100 years old.........?
Its nearly 200 years old bluegate mate and to say it is historic is an understatement!
Not only is it one of the worlds first fireproof mills built using an iron frame and stone but it was also the place that in 1900 A V Roe registered his aeroplane building business making it the first aircraft manufacturers in the WORLD!

It is Grade II* listed putting it in the same category as The Midland Hotel, The Refuge Building and The Manchester Museum.

But Highriser knows better...........!

macc · September 8th, 2006, 11:19 PM

Brownfield mill, Is that what its called? I'm trying to get a picture but I can't find anything.

Mez · September 9th, 2006, 06:43 PM

Ahh, i love this building. Started my job at ILVA on monday and I get to look at it everyday.
Its just as good as any other mill around there apart from that shitty veneer thats on the south side. Build and extension on the north side to front Gt Ancoats st and fill up the land between it and that moon bar with a classy modern equivalent and robert's your dad's brother!

The Longford · September 9th, 2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by macc

Brownfield mill, Is that what its called? I'm trying to get a picture but I can't find anything.

There is a picture in this article about A V Roe which was written by Manchester's best (and most handsome) writer on such matters!

http://www.manchestercivic.org.uk/forum/37/F37_11.pdf

highriser · September 10th, 2006, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Longford

Over 100 years old.........?
Its nearly 200 years old bluegate mate and to say it is historic is an understatement!
Not only is it one of the worlds first fireproof mills built using an iron frame and stone but it was also the place that in 1900 A V Roe registered his aeroplane building business making it the first aircraft manufacturers in the WORLD!

It is Grade II* listed putting it in the same category as The Midland Hotel, The Refuge Building and The Manchester Museum.

But Highriser knows better...........!

Fair enough ,, i just wish something is done with it , it looks like a bag of bollox atm.
Im all for restoring our historic building's

The Longford · September 10th, 2006, 01:16 AM

I wish something is done with it aswell if its any consolation.
Fucking dodgy landlords who dont give a shit about the building and would rather see it fall down so they can sell it on.
I agree it looks shit and its spitting in the eye of such an important building.

WeasteDevil · September 10th, 2006, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Longford

it was also the place that in 1900 A V Roe registered his aeroplane building business making it the first aircraft manufacturers in the WORLD!

Their most famous aircraft however was built in Trafford Park, where the hell is that factory now? WTF happened to MetroVicks?

kebabmonster · September 10th, 2006, 02:51 AM

There is a Rugby Union club, based in Sale, called Trafford Metropolitain Vickers. They have pic's on the wall of the old factory (loads of replicas of that famous pic, where the light beams in over the workers making planes)

The Longford · September 10th, 2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

Their most famous aircraft however was built in Trafford Park, where the hell is that factory now? WTF happened to MetroVicks?

Sorry to be a pedant Weastey but all the majority of their aircraft were built at Greengate, Failsworth and out at Woodford. The metroVicks factory in TP was given over to war production though where Lancasters were built.
MetroVicks became part of GEC who had a presence until the late 90's and the whole factory and the beautiful offices building were demolished to make way for some green corrugated metal sheds.
Have a look here:

http://www.mvbook.org.uk/

High-Fi · September 10th, 2006, 10:41 PM

I took another little tour of Manchester today, starting off at Piccadilly Basin...

macc · September 11th, 2006, 11:18 AM

See that white building on the corner with all the broken windows. I walked passed it a few weeks ago. You can see into the basement through the broken windows. What used to resemble a meeting place for the homeless is now full of the tools of joiners, so they are obviously making progress from the inside.

That building is ruining the view at the moment but it'll be great when it and the adjoining buildings have been done up.

High-Fi · September 11th, 2006, 01:32 PM

Let's hope they do renovate it properly. It's like an inverse Express Building.

The Longford · September 11th, 2006, 01:41 PM

That is the Hilton Street warehouse of J D Williams from 1937 and was designed by Pendleton and Dickinson who also did The Regal (now The Dancehouse) on Oxford Road. But of course you all knew that!
They seem to have been converting it for ages and its being developed by Maghull who have a chequred history. Its a great building IMO. I think KITR has in his avatar doesnt he?

skymann · September 11th, 2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by High-Fi

It's like an inverse Express Building.

Well, well, so it is!

macc · September 11th, 2006, 04:15 PM

Can anyone tell me what they are doing here?

(The large industrial machinery, rather than the fishing granny)

GShutty · September 11th, 2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by macc

Can anyone tell me what they are doing here?

(The large industrial machinery, rather than the fishing granny)

Good spot Macc- I haven't heard anything about this one, but have seen a lot of activity in the dirty black building in the far corner of the car park recently too. Any clues any body? Activity levels are certainly picking up around here again!

macc · September 11th, 2006, 05:08 PM

Another bridge from here to ISSA Quay would be nice....and get rid of the cars and make it into a park while they're at it

September 8th, 2006, 11:00 PM	#144
The Longford Benefit Scrounger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: M20 Posts: 8,097 Likes (Received): 4	Over 100 years old.........? Its nearly 200 years old bluegate mate and to say it is historic is an understatement! Not only is it one of the worlds first fireproof mills built using an iron frame and stone but it was also the place that in 1900 A V Roe registered his aeroplane building business making it the first aircraft manufacturers in the WORLD! It is Grade II* listed putting it in the same category as The Midland Hotel, The Refuge Building and The Manchester Museum. But Highriser knows better...........! __________________ Visit The Trafford Spade Museum - Bring The Kids. Ample Parking and Excellent Gift Shop Right Next Door

September 9th, 2006, 06:43 PM	#146
Mez Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,442 Likes (Received): 1	Ahh, i love this building. Started my job at ILVA on monday and I get to look at it everyday. Its just as good as any other mill around there apart from that shitty veneer thats on the south side. Build and extension on the north side to front Gt Ancoats st and fill up the land between it and that moon bar with a classy modern equivalent and robert's your dad's brother! __________________ Contribute

September 10th, 2006, 01:16 AM	#149
The Longford Benefit Scrounger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: M20 Posts: 8,097 Likes (Received): 4	I wish something is done with it aswell if its any consolation. Fucking dodgy landlords who dont give a shit about the building and would rather see it fall down so they can sell it on. I agree it looks shit and its spitting in the eye of such an important building. __________________ Visit The Trafford Spade Museum - Bring The Kids. Ample Parking and Excellent Gift Shop Right Next Door

September 11th, 2006, 01:41 PM	#156
The Longford Benefit Scrounger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: M20 Posts: 8,097 Likes (Received): 4	That is the Hilton Street warehouse of J D Williams from 1937 and was designed by Pendleton and Dickinson who also did The Regal (now The Dancehouse) on Oxford Road. But of course you all knew that! They seem to have been converting it for ages and its being developed by Maghull who have a chequred history. Its a great building IMO. I think KITR has in his avatar doesnt he? __________________ Visit The Trafford Spade Museum - Bring The Kids. Ample Parking and Excellent Gift Shop Right Next Door

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September 6th, 2006, 09:13 PM	#141
highriser Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,239 Likes (Received): 7	I wish that shitty building ( Brownfield Mill ) facing IVLA , will get demolished its in a terrible state , surely the council can inforce something to be done with it .

September 7th, 2006, 07:15 PM	#142
markydeedrop John 3:16 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,939 Likes (Received): 6	Hey highriser that building is both our past and future, it's OK. I'm not sure it's going anywhere soon.

September 8th, 2006, 11:19 PM	#145
macc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,314 Likes (Received): 10	Brownfield mill, Is that what its called? I'm trying to get a picture but I can't find anything.

September 10th, 2006, 02:51 AM	#151
kebabmonster Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bolton/Salford Posts: 1,404 Likes (Received): 0	There is a Rugby Union club, based in Sale, called Trafford Metropolitain Vickers. They have pic's on the wall of the old factory (loads of replicas of that famous pic, where the light beams in over the workers making planes)

September 10th, 2006, 10:41 PM	#153
High-Fi Littlemoss, Shameside Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Behind the lens Posts: 1,072 Likes (Received): 74	I took another little tour of Manchester today, starting off at Piccadilly Basin...

September 11th, 2006, 11:18 AM	#154
macc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,314 Likes (Received): 10	See that white building on the corner with all the broken windows. I walked passed it a few weeks ago. You can see into the basement through the broken windows. What used to resemble a meeting place for the homeless is now full of the tools of joiners, so they are obviously making progress from the inside. That building is ruining the view at the moment but it'll be great when it and the adjoining buildings have been done up.

September 11th, 2006, 01:32 PM	#155
High-Fi Littlemoss, Shameside Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Behind the lens Posts: 1,072 Likes (Received): 74	Let's hope they do renovate it properly. It's like an inverse Express Building.

September 11th, 2006, 04:15 PM	#158
macc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,314 Likes (Received): 10	Can anyone tell me what they are doing here? (The large industrial machinery, rather than the fishing granny)

September 11th, 2006, 05:08 PM	#160
macc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,314 Likes (Received): 10	Another bridge from here to ISSA Quay would be nice....and get rid of the cars and make it into a park while they're at it