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hello,
How many meters between pitch and first row ? thks... |
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Hello everybody. This stadium is so beautiful! I can see it during Manchester City games in the premier league. This stadium is used for concerts? if I'm not wrong I believe oasis have played there. Greetings from Colombia.
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City of Manchester Stadium no more!
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In other words, they need to find ways to skirt UEFA's Financial Fair Play Rules in order to keep buying players who otherwise wouldn't come to City unless they were paid well beyond market value.
If Chelsea or City are allowed to win a CL trophy under this financial doping I'll give up hope in the professional game. This excess is making the MLS single-entity model look exceptional.
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Football's fucked, I've seen the difference in the 15-20 odd years I've been going over to London for games. As Dylan once said "Money doesn't talk, it swears" |
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#126 |
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Can someone explain?
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Traditionally, a football club operates on the revenue it generates via media contracts, sponsorships, gate receipts, etc. There have been incidents in the past where owners have supplemented team revenues to boost their squad, but in the modern professional era such use of outside funding to enhance team pay has been pretty marginal.
Since Roman Abromovich purchased Chelsea FC he's "invested" more than $1 BILLION US dollars into the club for salaries and player purchases. In other words, he's using personal funds to pay not only above what Chelsea could afford on its own, but in many instances above and beyond what any other club on the planet could afford. Even at the increased value for the club now he's technically lost at least half that amount because it cannot be recouped. While this has virtually lifted Chelsea to a global brand over a few years but has also created a hyper inflated market for top players. Now City is doing the same thing, and those clubs are able to lure players from other teams, especially competitors, because they can pay wages scales beyond the normal market. Some abide by this because they know the current football market does (regrettably) favor the existing power clubs. They see this as a welcome challenge to the oligopoly enjoyed by the likes of Man U. But the clubs hurt in the process are the likes of Villa, Spurs and Everton who might be legitimatly doing better in the league and possibly qualifying for Europe, if not for these clubs' financial ability to lure more and better talent. All thanks to outside funding. The sad thing is both clubs were solid enough that they don't need to be doing this. Yes, the current system of league revenue payouts and UEFA distribution needs amending to address the funding imbalance, but failing to curtail the influence of outside revenues only exacerbates the problem.
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how much per year?
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#130 |
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£10-15 million
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From the guardian "The naming rights could provide an early test, however, for Uefa's FFP panel, which requires any sponsorship deal with a party related to the club's owners to pass a "fair value" test." I don't see anything financially abnormal with this deal, it's not the club who creates the value its the competitions they play in (or have the potential to) and how good the team is. In this case City play in the world's most visible domestic league and Europe's premier club competition, as well as having one of the largest home media markets in Europe. Quote:
The champions league revenue is as much outside revenue as owners income imho. At the start you say traditionally clubs raised money from media and sponsorship when that isn't true, it's actually when those started to factor in football that things started to go awry. I can understand why clubs would want outside investment when they're having to compete with clubs being doped by the champions league, Man U and Arsenal are more to blame than City and Chelsea. Tbh I find the protestations quite hypocritical as likes of Spurs, Villa and Everton (who you reference) would never have turned this investment down and the majority of their fans would have the same attitude as city fans. The Bosman rule inflated the wages, widened the player pool for the wealthy clubs and made it easier for the wealthy clubs to get the best players. You claimed that both clubs were "solid enough" but as I recall it Chelsea were on the brink of collapse before Ambramovich came in after spending a load of dosh just to keep up with United and Arsenal All financial fair play will do is cement the status quo as there is no provision to make revenue distribution fair. If UEFA really were trying to help they would've done them both at the same time but as was documented it was the big clubs who called for financial restrictions in the first place to stop clubs like Man CIty threatening their cosy little world. |
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In reality it's about two things, controlling movement and incentivising playing. Controlling movement creates fair distribution of players (I personally like the idea of more rigid squad size caps and squad recruitment rules) and incentivising playing would be restricting wages of players who don't play, by offering a basic salary and win and draw bonuses so that sitting on the bench at United or Barcelona doesn't pay at all, at least relative to starting for other clubs in their leagues. Last edited by bigbossman; July 10th, 2011 at 03:20 PM. |
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- - - Meanwhile, I'm sorry for straying OT. I've said my peace. Regardless of the name and the club, it's one of the better venues in England right now.
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I take your points gunnnerjacket and yes I agree way off topic.It looks like it's a lot more than previously thought http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...etihad-airways Quote:
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It's not like Mansour renamed it Mansour stadium in a £2billion 10 year deal though, that would be a way for him to continue 'investing' as well as complying to the Uefa rules, is £15m per year really that much when you think how much they are paying for players!!
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It's £40m a year, vastly more than clubs with bigger 'brands', although using Arsenal as example is a bit of journalistic licence as it's well known they hugely undersold their naming rights.
It looks like it is packaged together with other elements though and that changes things. It isn't £400 just for stadium naming rights, so the comparison with MSG is slightly misleading, as JP Morgan Chase aren't getting their name on any shirts for a start. Until we know the entire breakdown of how much is being spent on what it's difficult to say if UEFA can throw out the deal, but it seems unlikely. |
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which is the total annual budget of manchester city
how much pay television to the club in a season? |
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Some info here:
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It's £40 million/year for both stadium naming and shirt right?
Not that crazy when Liverpool and Man Utd get £20 million for just the shirt. I don't see how UEFA can throw it out and defend it. |
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