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Old July 5th, 2007, 03:09 AM   #341
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everytime i see a major cities subway system map it makes me wonder why Toronto's is so garbage.
New York and Tokyo are 4-6 times the size of Toronto. They're in a different league...how could you expect a similar subway system.
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Old July 5th, 2007, 05:28 AM   #342
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New York and Tokyo are 4-6 times the size of Toronto. They're in a different league...how could you expect a similar subway system.
I fail to see the correlation between the size of a city and the quality of a subway.
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Old July 5th, 2007, 05:42 AM   #343
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We were among the first ones to have it... now its not so special anymore =/
Oh yeah HK innovated it. Other than that there are only a few cities that have a successful smart card system.

Ok Singapore has EZ-Link, London has Oyster and Tokyo has Suica, any other cities?
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Old July 5th, 2007, 05:51 AM   #344
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Oh yeah HK innovated it. Other than that there are only a few cities that have a successful smart card system.

Ok Singapore has EZ-Link, London has Oyster and Tokyo has Suica, any other cities?
Paris has navigo pass since 2001.
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Old July 5th, 2007, 05:59 AM   #345
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Population and urban expanse should be considered. New York, Tokyo, London, and Seoul are heavily populated and spread-out cities, hence they need a vast expanse of subways to get people around. Likewise, Hong Kong is a dense but concentrated city, so need for vast geographic coverage is weak. Toronto isn't a very big city population-wise, but it is very spread out, so it may not make economic sense to build too many subway lines. However, is this strategy viable in the long-run? Would intensification give better economic reasons to expand the subway network, or will a band-aid solution such as HOV lanes and buses do for now if there is no money for larger investments?
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Old July 5th, 2007, 12:58 PM   #346
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Madrid is the third biggest Subway in the world with 317 km, later of New York & London....
In addition it was inaugurated in 1919.... before Tokyo & Moscow....
It has 316 stations.....
They are doing new extensions.....

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I don't know other subway of a grand city....


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Old July 5th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #347
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The two best subways I have seen are NYC and London, I have not been to Asia so I am not too familiar with their systems.
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Old July 5th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #348
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The two best subways I have seen are NYC and London, I have not been to Asia so I am not too familiar with their systems.
Madrid? It's the third.... was you in Madrid city?
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Old July 5th, 2007, 07:02 PM   #349
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Moscow, hands down, even though there are a few very serious contenders, mostly in large european cities. Those that listed New York, however, must be kidding.
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Old July 5th, 2007, 07:18 PM   #350
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Madrid? It's the third.... was you in Madrid city?
I have not been to Madrid (will be going there in March '08 though ), so I cant speak for it, I have heard its great though.
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Old July 6th, 2007, 02:53 AM   #351
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New York and Tokyo are 4-6 times the size of Toronto. They're in a different league...how could you expect a similar subway system.
Toronto's metro population is around 6 million so around 3 times larger actually.

But thats not all. Madrid is similar in size to Toronto both by population and city size yet Madrid's subway is more than 3 times larger than Toronto's. The size of Toronto's subway is comparable to small cities in Europe housing only 500k - 1 million people which is pathetic. And also Toronto is spread out on its edges but the inner city is quite dense and have huge ridership numbers. Some bus lines have to run buses in groups of 3 every 2 minutes and they are still over flowing. Clearly the demand is there.
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Old July 6th, 2007, 04:43 AM   #352
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I fail to see why people are listing how many kms of rail and how many stations they have. Just having a lot of stations and endless stretches of rail hardly accounts for how good a rail system is.

Thanks to hkskyline for pointing that out before me, I just wanted to reiterate
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Old July 6th, 2007, 09:54 AM   #353
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Exactly. Look at the difference between Tokyo and London.
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Old July 6th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #354
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Oh yeah HK innovated it. Other than that there are only a few cities that have a successful smart card system.
When HK innovated smart card system?
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Old July 6th, 2007, 01:04 PM   #355
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When HK innovated smart card system?
Hong Kong's Octopus card was launched in 1997.
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Old July 6th, 2007, 01:36 PM   #356
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Hong Kong's Octopus card was launched in 1997.
Oh, thanks.
Moscow metro started using smart cards in 1998...
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Old July 7th, 2007, 01:06 PM   #357
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I have not been to Madrid (will be going there in March '08 though ), so I cant speak for it, I have heard its great though.
Ok! Madrid is a very nice city!!! :P

The 3 line has the more modern trains in the city....

Sorry, but I don't speak english....

If you want to ask something me of Madrid I will try to answer you
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=495340
There are some of the monuments more famous of madrid....


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Old July 8th, 2007, 03:37 AM   #358
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Old July 8th, 2007, 08:05 AM   #359
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