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Old December 29th, 2007, 08:32 PM   #601
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It was expensive
Yes, if you don't buy an Oyster card. It's deliberately expensive to discourage the use of paper tickets. IMO Oyster cards are still too expensive but hey it's not so bad.

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claustrophobic
Part of the character

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Stations are very boring
I beg to differ, it has more architectural variety then most other metros. See here.

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I would call it copy-paste design (like commieblock).
What?

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Endless tiny tubes
What do you expect?

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gateways etc.
Gateways? Do you dislike ticket gates or something?

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Also small platforms
Define "small", legnth-wise or width-wise? Width-wise, the platforms are just as wide as in Paris or New York, and legnth wise, the trains are actually longer than most Parisian trains, however they're shorter than New York's.

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endless signaling problems. I've never so such problems anywhere else except London.
That is true, but the investment programmes means that by 2020 all lines will have automatic train operation with more frequent, faster and more reliable service.

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But it is not the best, even not close to. Asian metros are cleaner, safer etc. And London metro is expensive. Too expensive for such crap sevice.
Asian metros all look the same. Yet you accuse London of having "copy-paste" design, which by the way doesn't actually make sense.

You're contradicting yourself a bit, aren't you?

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Old January 9th, 2008, 02:13 PM   #602
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World's Most Frequent Metro Systems...
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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #603
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I have not taken many metros around the world but i was really impressed with the London Underground. It's got a very extensive network and it's really easy to travel around in London in the tube. I have to agree that it's expensive. I'm seriously considering the Oyster card if i have to go down to London more often.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 03:48 PM   #604
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According this Moscow and Paris are the most frequent metro system.
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Old January 9th, 2008, 04:10 PM   #605
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Minimum planned interval goes down to 89 seconds in Moscow.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 01:04 AM   #606
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According this Moscow and Paris are the most frequent metro system.
Yep, scroll down the page to see how rubbish LU is
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Old January 10th, 2008, 02:47 AM   #607
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Coth stop posting flattering photos. Anyone who has been to Moscow knows that what I'm saying is true. As for you, well didn't you tell us once that you'd never been outside of Russia and Ukraine? Well I've been to 50 countries on every habited continent and I have been on dozens of metro/subway networks. Moscow's and St Petersburg's were the only ones anywhere in the world that struck me as being particularly dark and gloomy.
Monkey, have you been to Washington DC subway? It is by far much darker than Moscow. Yet considered by many an aesthetically pleasing system.
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Old January 11th, 2008, 01:50 AM   #608
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Darkness 'works' in some places but looks gloomy in others, perhaps that's what he means.
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Old January 15th, 2008, 02:45 AM   #609
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Athens metro:

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Old January 19th, 2008, 08:36 PM   #610
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Is Athens' Metro deep level or shallow?
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Old January 20th, 2008, 03:06 PM   #611
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Pyongyang Metro... North Korea

Pyongyang's metro was inaugurated in 1973... their stations and railcars were influenced by Russia's.



Here is the map of Pyongyang Metro designed by a Japanese person.





Some pics of a station...











And Youtube clip explaining the Pyongyang Metro in English...

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Old January 21st, 2008, 12:57 AM   #612
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LOL, the music... I feel really happy now.
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Old January 21st, 2008, 08:36 PM   #613
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You said "the designs were original"

The original deep level Moscow stations were:

"1 or beginning of something,
Nope.

"5. created, undertaken, or presented for the first time
Nope.
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Mayakovskya metro station in Moscow was the first deep alignment station of columnar type in the world.
Other deep stations were pylon type.

That's why this station was awared with Grand-Prix at New York World's Fair in 1939.



compare with a pylon type station

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Old January 21st, 2008, 09:52 PM   #614
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God, you lot just can't let this one go.

He said that the first deep level designs were "original" he did not specify whether or not they were a column or a pylon station. And since he was so arrogant about it, I decided I wasn't going to shut up.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 03:59 AM   #615
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Hong Kong's MTR for frequency, coverage, safety and cleanliness.

It is perfect in my mind.

  • Platform screen doors are present in almost all stations. (most other systems might only have this for several stations)
  • The Octopus Card smart cards are ubiquitous and have been in use with the system for over ten years. They are not exclusively for transit payment either; with many retails stores accepting Octopus payment.
  • Cleanliness. It is nearly spotless. No graffiti, rats or even garbage.
  • Wide and roomy train cars.
  • Frequency on many lines of 2 minutes
  • Very efficient crowd management due to good station design. There are often redundant escalators running at high speed.
  • Ease of use. Flashing indicators in train to show which stations you are at and which one you are approaching. Tri-lingual station announcements.


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Old January 23rd, 2008, 09:06 AM   #616
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The graffiti part in the MTR I agree
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 01:08 PM   #617
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There are often redundant escalators running at high speed.
What do you mean? The escalators run faster than on other systems?
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 02:53 PM   #618
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What is usual speed of long metro escalators around the world?
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 05:58 PM   #619
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What do you mean? The escalators run faster than on other systems?
Yes, I've noticed MTR's escalators run at significantly higher speeds than their counterparts elsewhere, and for good reason - the huge passenger volumes demand a more effective and fast solution to move crowds between floors.
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It is dificult to measure which is the best underground. I think that we should create a poll and refreseh it every 6 months in order to add the new maps and changes from all diferent undergrounds. So we could have an stadistical averadge every period and see how people change their opinion or which underground gets most of the points permanently.
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