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Old January 30th, 2008, 10:31 PM   #661
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What difference does it make? Before we were even having this discussion this thread had been dead for weeks.
I'm not saying it makes a difference whether you engage in this conversation or not. I check all the threads on the Hall of Fame section regularly, just voicing my opinion concurring with what someone posted above me.

Feel free to continue, lol.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #662
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I've never seen published figures for escalator speeds. Where did you get your numbers from?
I got the numbers from wikipedia's LU article, and I got Moscow's from what coth said, and I never claimed that you did published any figures.

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Well he didn't really said twice.
He said "significantly higher speeds" and "It's 1.5 times that speed".
I never thought he did, I said: "despite coth's claims that they're twice as fast"

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So he was talking about 1,1 m/s. I can suppose that it's not really 1,5 times faster, but about 0,9 - 1,0 m/s.
Is this anecdotal?

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As i said some escalators in Moscow Metro are working at 0,94 m/s speed.
Some. How many? And didn't you say this was against the rules anyway?
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Old January 31st, 2008, 12:26 AM   #663
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iampuking, i never made any comparisons at all.

i say that he is talking about 1,5 times higher speed, which is actually possible. may be not 1,1 m/s, but 0,9 - 1,0 m/s.

afaik it's not really allowed since some time. but i have been on at least two stations last year where escalators were definitely working on high speed. may be high speed was turned on by mistake...
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Old January 31st, 2008, 01:08 AM   #664
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iampuking, i never made any comparisons at all.
You did.

In response to hkskyline saying: "Take the London Underground escalators at Knightsbridge - the long ride up to the concourse. It's 1.5 times that speed."

you said: "Well in Moscow all escalators are working at 2nd speed"
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Old January 31st, 2008, 01:24 AM   #665
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Now I see that escalators speeds is a big factor.
To be honest Paris metro is not deep, so escalators don't need to be fast (when these work).
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Old January 31st, 2008, 01:44 AM   #666
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You did.

In response to hkskyline saying: "Take the London Underground escalators at Knightsbridge - the long ride up to the concourse. It's 1.5 times that speed."

you said: "Well in Moscow all escalators are working at 2nd speed"
2nd speed. Not twice faster. There are few speeds - low, medium, high. Afaik medium is 0,75m/s.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 01:48 AM   #667
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2nd speed. Not twice faster. There are few speeds - low, medium, high. Afaik medium is 0,75m/s.
It was a misunderstanding then...
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Old January 31st, 2008, 04:51 PM   #668
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I wouldn't rely on Wiki as a valid resource. Anyone can edit it. It can be crap and people don't realize it. I'd go for something a bit more scientific, and personal observation is part of the scientific method.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 06:37 PM   #669
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I trust wikipedia more over you.

And i've already done personal observation, compare the the video of an escalator at Angel tube station with the one of Fortress Hill on the MTR.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 07:31 PM   #670
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In my country are like four subway sistems (Caracas, Maracaibo, Valencia, Los Teques) but none of them are as big and complex like those in Hambourg, Moscow or New York. Caracas subway is the biggest, It has four lines and millions of users
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Old February 1st, 2008, 03:47 AM   #671
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I trust wikipedia more over you.

And i've already done personal observation, compare the the video of an escalator at Angel tube station with the one of Fortress Hill on the MTR.
Fortress Hill is not a high-traffic station, hence is not a good gauge of the fastest escalators. Logically, the fastest escalators would be at the busiest stations (ie. Central).

Knightsbridge is a major shopping destination in London, hence would have comparable flows to a busy MTR station in Hong Kong.

That's the judgment that you won't find in Wiki. I also question the methodology in which they get those statistics. As a scientific person, I would not give much confidence unless they have a reliable source to trace to.
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Fortress Hill is not a high-traffic station, hence is not a good gauge of the fastest escalators. Logically, the fastest escalators would be at the busiest stations (ie. Central).
How about this one then?



For comparision

Canada Water tube station - 8million passengers per year



Angel tube station with 15million passengers per year



And a relatively quiet one - South Wimbledon with 3million per year, see the video here.

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Knightsbridge is a major shopping destination in London, hence would have comparable flows to a busy MTR station in Hong Kong.
Not really, Knightsbridge has 17million passengers per year, compare it to London's busiest - King's Cross with 70million passengers per year.
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Not really, Knightsbridge has 17million passengers per year, compare it to London's busiest - King's Cross with 70million passengers per year.
Have you done a relative analysis with Fortress Hill to compare the two then?
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Nope. I don't even know where to obtain such figures.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 07:15 AM   #676
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It'll be very hard to obtain reliable figures, especially when the detailed plans of stations with escalator lengths are not easily reachable.
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I don't really see what relevance it has tbh. Moscow has many more passengers per station and longer escalators yet they are only 0.02 m/s faster.
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Not really, Knightsbridge has 17million passengers per year, compare it to London's busiest - King's Cross with 70million passengers per year.
It was true in 2004 but not in 2006

Top 5 LU busiest stations Entries and exits
In millions

Victoria : 72.992
Waterloo : 72.874
Oxford Circus : 68.438
Liverpool Street : 57.895
King's Cross St. Pancras : 52.51

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/...load=entryexit

Of course these data don't include transfert, so I think that King's Cross St. Pancras is always the busiest.
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It was true in 2004 but not in 2006

Top 5 LU busiest stations Entries and exits
In millions

Victoria : 72.992
Waterloo : 72.874
Oxford Circus : 68.438
Liverpool Street : 57.895
King's Cross St. Pancras : 52.51

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/...load=entryexit

Of course these data don't include transfert, so I think that King's Cross St. Pancras is always the busiest.
Thanks for the correction, I was relying on memory alone...
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Old February 5th, 2008, 08:03 PM   #680
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I think Mexico City has a very nice and decent Metro.
Good and modern trains and good cuality stations.
Consider one of the largest Metros in the world, the largest one in LA.

Currently underconstruction line 12.
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