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Old May 31st, 2009, 12:38 PM   #821
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^ Well maybe. But then again, the average person would rather listen to cheesy crap pop rubbish. Do we then call this the best music in the world? ;O)
Yes, that's true. That's why I said in my 1st post that this is too subjective and we may not be able to reach a definite conclusion. But what we can do is to showcase merits (and demerits) of different systems for better clarity..
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Old May 31st, 2009, 05:25 PM   #822
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I agree with your point but I believe that we should look from the perspective of a commuter. He/she will definitely prefer to have a modern system rather than an older and historic system, unless he is emotionally attached to it. Don't you think that many Londoners will prefer uprooting the existing system with historic relevance and emotional attachment for building an altogether new system. It's us who are lovers of subway systems but a regular commuter will not have that much attachment. If you ask him, he will give a higher score to a new and modern system than a historically important system.

Regarding my views on Beijing subway, they are my personal views which I cannot impose on anybody. The reason why I rate it most attractive is because of its station designes which I saw in Beijing subway thread here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=689598&page=5
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=689598&page=6
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=689598&page=7

^ The stations seen here are not sterile and plain. Anyways these are my personal views and everybody has a different taste.
If an old system has all the amenities of a new system, which is possible, then I doubt most people would care that much. Plus, old systems generally have greater beauty than newer systems, which I think the average person appreciates.

Most of the stations in those pics posted AFAIK are of the Olympic line which are obviously more impressive than the average station in order to impress Olympic visitors. The ones on page 7 are of an airport station which is also more impressive for the same reason. I really don't think those show Beijing to have the most beautiful metro in the world.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 07:20 PM   #823
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How on earth did you ever come up with that username?
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Old May 31st, 2009, 10:12 PM   #824
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Turnstiles are what makes most metro stations crap. They are ******* dangerous. The Helsinki subway donīt have them and I must say itīs a lot more comfortable that way.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 10:58 PM   #825
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There in Helsinki you hardly have even a single percent of busyness of systems like Tokyo Metro, Moscow Metro, London Underground or New York Subway. We don't have turnstiles in suburban buses as well.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 09:17 AM   #826
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^Exactly how do they improve the flow of people during rush hour? Stockholm have them as well, and their subway isnīt nearly as busy as those you mentioned.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 05:02 PM   #827
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If an old system has all the amenities of a new system, which is possible, then I doubt most people would care that much. Plus, old systems generally have greater beauty than newer systems, which I think the average person appreciates.

Most of the stations in those pics posted AFAIK are of the Olympic line which are obviously more impressive than the average station in order to impress Olympic visitors. The ones on page 7 are of an airport station which is also more impressive for the same reason. I really don't think those show Beijing to have the most beautiful metro in the world.
Yeah, Olympic line and Airport express are much better than rest of the system. Maybe I was wrong in quoting that Beijing subway is most aesthetic; instead I should have said these 2 lines are best looking in the world.

But I dont think that old systems are generally beautiful. I believe it's other way round as newer technologies make it it easier to build an aesthetically pleasing and elegant system at lower cost. Also the sense of aesthetics and design improve over time. Old is not always gold Anyways that's my view.
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Theoretically true, but many of the new metros being built just look plain bland - which is where I think he's coming from.

Whereas many of the older ones built had some sort of 'character' to them lacking in the new ones.
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 05:15 AM   #829
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Theoretically true, but many of the new metros being built just look plain bland - which is where I think he's coming from.

Whereas many of the older ones built had some sort of 'character' to them lacking in the new ones.
Yep, that's what I meant.

And were you asking about my username or somebody elses? The reason for my username is because I couldn't think of anything else so used a name that i've used on the internet since I was 11...
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 07:40 AM   #830
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^Exactly how do they improve the flow of people during rush hour? Stockholm have them as well, and their subway isnīt nearly as busy as those you mentioned.
In Moscow subway flow of people in rush hour is not limited by turnstile s but rather by the capacity and frequency of trains, capacity of escalators and area of the station floors. It is actually safer to create some bottleneck at turnstiles. It acts like a regulatory valve. And what is dangerous about them? I have never heard of anybody hurt by a turnstile.
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Old June 2nd, 2009, 03:01 PM   #831
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You've never seen the movie "Return of the Killer Turnstiles"?
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Old December 10th, 2009, 07:32 PM   #832
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Venezuela`s Subways

Actually, Venezuela has 4 subways and others in projects:
Caracas` Subway
Los Teques` Subway
Maracaibo`s Subway, and
Valencia`s Subway.


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Old December 10th, 2009, 09:58 PM   #833
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My top 10

1) Moscow
2) Tokyo
3) NY
4) London
5) Paris
6) Madrid
7) Saint-Petersburg
8) Berlin
9) Dubai
10) Tashkent
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Old December 16th, 2009, 11:11 PM   #834
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I've only been on 4, so I'll just rank the ones I'm familiar with.

1. Montréal
2. London
3. Paris
4. Toronto
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Old December 17th, 2009, 05:45 PM   #835
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1) Moscow
2) Tokyo
3) NY
4) London
5) Paris
6) Madrid
7) Saint-Petersburg
8) Berlin
9) Dubai
10) Tashkent
What's the Tashkent system like? Is it built monumental style like Moscow?
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Old December 20th, 2009, 12:08 PM   #836
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What's the Tashkent system like? Is it built monumental style like Moscow?
Yes,its really looks monumental like Moscow Metro,but built in traditional middle-asian style. Stations are beautiful, spacious. Trains run precisely on schedule. Since the opening of the metro in 1982, it has never been any interruption in its work.
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Old December 21st, 2009, 05:23 PM   #837
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Old January 24th, 2010, 01:20 PM   #839
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New York. It may not be the most clean, but in my experiences, it's fast and reliable.
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Old January 29th, 2010, 11:07 PM   #840
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i can only rank those subways which i actually visited, so here are my top 5:

#1 HK
#2 tokyo
#3 NYC
#4 shanghai
#5 beijing
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