DISCUSS: Best Subway

[PortoNuts]

Madrid hands down.

[Justme]

Originally Posted by AmirBaki

Tokyo for sure for me... clean, efficient and ON TIME which is a big plus, never seen that in any other major city. I read somewhere that the engineer actually apologizes if hes more than 15 seconds late or something...

Although as nihonkitty said its not as nice as its 'commuter' rail, its still very extensive and covers most of the city, and the commuter rail (basically just ground level subway trains, so still part of the subway system right?) covers the rest of the city and its suburbs

Since when is being on time an issue with a metro system? A proper metro system has a frequent enough service that people never actually check time tables. Most people for instant don't realize the London tube actually has a time table, and this is common for most full networks. They are turn up and hop on services.

Actually, I liked the Tokyo system as well, but what I found was a let down, at least when I was last there 3 years or so ago, was that the network was divided into at least two seperate companies, and I found that even though I had a ticket, it wasn't valid when I changed lines because the other line was run by a different firm. This wasn't very efficient.

[ukiyo]

No one really buys tickets (except tourists who don't know the system I guess). You use a suica card (you simply sweep the card over the scanner), which can be used by basically every company in Japan now. The only time I used tickets is for Shinkansen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suica

It works on buses, taxis, subway, commuter rail and even in restaurants and vending machines. The company doesn't matter . The suica is now even usable in basically every city in the entire country too (before it was only Tokyo). Hong Kong and Singapore also use the same system and Hong Kong was actually the first to use it even though it was developed by Sony.

Nowadays Japanese cell phones have this built into them, so your cell phone is basically a train card + wallet.

[iampuking]

The lack of integration isn't just to do with the tickets, never been there but it seems as though the interchanges aren't particularly convenient.

Also, the stations are often cramped and rather bland and unattractive. Tokyo only wins on punctuality, IMO. Even then there are more frequent trains in Moscow and Paris.

[manrush]

Is it a coincidence that the four busiest metro systems happen to have large rolling stock?

[ukiyo]

Originally Posted by iampuking

The lack of integration isn't just to do with the tickets, never been there but it seems as though the interchanges aren't particularly convenient.

Also, the stations are often cramped and rather bland and unattractive. Tokyo only wins on punctuality, IMO. Even then there are more frequent trains in Moscow and Paris.

The only inconvenience I can think of is with the commuter rail outside of the central wards. The subway (which this thread is about) on the other hand is not inconvenient at all, it is new and you don't really need to change anywhere (unless you're a tourist and going all over the place ). The commuter rail (above ground) was planned and designed decades ago (and in many cases the early 1900s).

This is why I never give my opinion on systems I have never been on...it's better to give a judgement if you've actually used it. Every person in this thread who has been to Tokyo and other systems has ranked it high, but maybe it's a conspiracy :P

[_00_deathscar]

Originally Posted by NihonKitty

I will rank them (in my own opinion) according to this: Cleanliness, how extensive, Trains and convenience.

*Note yes I ranked HK and Tokyo both as 1.

1. Hong Kong (it also uses the same system developed by Sony as Japan [RFID chips]).

The Hong Kong one isn't very extensive - thought it is expanding. It's lack of extensiveness is brought about by physical factors though.

But yes, it rates very highly on the other scales - in particular cleanliness and convenience.

[ajaaronjoe]

London Underground is kinda interesting though as it is world's oldest underground railway systems, and it also has different architecture in each station.

[Balkanada]

Originally Posted by PortoNuts

Madrid hands down.

I'll second that

[Xusein]

I think I posted in this thread a long time ago, but IMO, Washington DC has the best metro in North America aesthetically speaking.

[SeñorGuillermo]

Mexico City Metro

Originally Posted by DanBusMetro

HOLA A TODOS!!!
AQUI ESTAN ALGUNA IMAGENES DE LA LLEGADA DE LOS NUEVOS TRENES FM-07 QUE CIRCULARAN EN LINEA "A" ESPERO PORDER VERLOS PRONTO Y SUBIRME EN ELLOS LO ESPERO CON ANSIA JEJE




















BUENO ESPERO LES GUSTEN.....
Fuente: http://www.adefesio.com/search/label/Metro

[SeñorGuillermo]

Originally Posted by hook89

Estas son las ultimas imagenes que subieron a la pagina de proyecto metro sobre las estaciones subterráneas, son de finales de agosto. De las elevadas son de septiembre.

Estación Eje Central

De las fotos que hay en el sitio, estas son de las que muestran mas el "corazón" de la obra.












Estación Mexicaltzingo












Estación Calle 11

Originally Posted by siDEmaIN-ALEX

Tuve la oportunidad de visitar los talleres de la estación Tláhuac, les traigo sólo unas fotos.
Estación Tlahuac


Talleres



Tramo elevado



Poco a poco iré poniendo más fotos, esto es solo la probadita, complementando las fotos de las estaciones profundas

Originally Posted by Alex Urban

Aqui les traigo un pequeño avance de lo que es de la Estación }Periférico Ote. a Tlatenco

Periférico Ote:

Ya estan colocando los soportes del cajon mas altos, que son los próximos al inicio de la estación:

Como ya habían informado anteriormente 18 m sobre el nivel del piso





Aquí las columnas casi pegadas al puente vehicular del Periférico a ver cuanto le calculan de separación:



Perspectiva general:



Estación San Lorenzo:

Sin gran avance


Olivos:

Misma situación


Interestación Olivos - Nopalera

Ya ahn colocado una cerca, o será los soportes para las instalaciones de comunicaciones y servicios.


Nopalera:

Sin avance significativo


Interestación Nopalera - Zapotitlán

Esta curvita se ve muy bien y pensar que tuvieron que llevarse n casas debajo
]

Zapotitlán:

Aquí si se nota un avance puesto que ya están colocados los cabezales de la estación que tendrá un diseño estructural similar a las del tamo de Pueblo Culhuacán a Tomatlán que son construidas por ICA


y su interestacion con Tlatenco igual que el tramo norte de Av. Tláhuac

Originally Posted by skymex20

Lo que estan haciendo en la interestacion Olivos - Nopalera, se me figura que es la cerca que les van a poner según vi en renders, pero mejor te dejo un render para veas a lo que me refiero. Arriba de las trabes metalicas estan las tavlas de cocnreto, y arriva de estan se ve que hay algo mas y eso es lo que creo que estan poniendo ahí:

Mexico City Metro is expanding and modernizing one more time.

[SeñorGuillermo]

Originally Posted by hook89

Estas son las ultimas imagenes que subieron a la pagina de proyecto metro sobre las estaciones subterráneas, son de finales de agosto. De las elevadas son de septiembre.

Estación Eje Central

De las fotos que hay en el sitio, estas son de las que muestran mas el "corazón" de la obra.












Estación Mexicaltzingo












Estación Calle 11

Originally Posted by siDEmaIN-ALEX

Tuve la oportunidad de visitar los talleres de la estación Tláhuac, les traigo sólo unas fotos.
Estación Tlahuac


Talleres



Tramo elevado



Poco a poco iré poniendo más fotos, esto es solo la probadita, complementando las fotos de las estaciones profundas

Originally Posted by Alex Urban

Aqui les traigo un pequeño avance de lo que es de la Estación }Periférico Ote. a Tlatenco

Periférico Ote:

Ya estan colocando los soportes del cajon mas altos, que son los próximos al inicio de la estación:

Como ya habían informado anteriormente 18 m sobre el nivel del piso





Aquí las columnas casi pegadas al puente vehicular del Periférico a ver cuanto le calculan de separación:



Perspectiva general:



Estación San Lorenzo:

Sin gran avance


Olivos:

Misma situación


Interestación Olivos - Nopalera

Ya ahn colocado una cerca, o será los soportes para las instalaciones de comunicaciones y servicios.


Nopalera:

Sin avance significativo


Interestación Nopalera - Zapotitlán

Esta curvita se ve muy bien y pensar que tuvieron que llevarse n casas debajo
]

Zapotitlán:

Aquí si se nota un avance puesto que ya están colocados los cabezales de la estación que tendrá un diseño estructural similar a las del tamo de Pueblo Culhuacán a Tomatlán que son construidas por ICA


y su interestacion con Tlatenco igual que el tramo norte de Av. Tláhuac

Originally Posted by skymex20

Bueno, aqui les dejo unas fotos que acaban de poner en el facebook de Linea Dorada en donde ya se alcanza a ver grandes avances de la obra de la Linea 12, son fotos tomadas durante este mes, asi que esas imagenes han de ser como de hace 2 semanas:


OLIVOS





ERMITA




20 DE NOVIEMBRE






EJE CENTRAL






NOPALERA






PARQUE DE LOS VENADOS






PERIFERICO ORIENTE






ZAPOTITLAN






ZAPATA

[Justme]

god that was boring.

[ajaaronjoe]

Originally Posted by Justme

god that was boring.

hundred and ten percent agree

[Berlinerin]

Berlin subway is the best. Stations are not as gorgeous as ,say, in Moscow but clean (unlike in Paris) and still look good.

[Justme]

Originally Posted by Berlinerin

Berlin subway is the best. Stations are not as gorgeous as ,say, in Moscow but clean (unlike in Paris) and still look good.

Despite having a real love and respect for Berlin. I simply can't agree with you there. Each time I go back to Berlin, their public transport has deteriorated. It's the little things sometimes, but when so many little things go wrong it all adds up. Berlin has terrible signage. And by terrible, I mean it's so bad, some station have virtually no signs or network maps. This makes it difficult to know everything from which platform to go on, to where to change.

And so many stations are terribly ugly. There are some nice ones, especially those that have been recently built or renovated, but it seems so more ugly ones. Service frequencies also seems to have dropped. The trams may as well just shut down I found them so infrequent.

And then of course is the new U5 (U55) U-whatever. 3 stations existing, and the final connection is globally recognized as the slowest infrastructure construction project on the planet.

I think Berlin has great prospects in the future, and it certainly was one of the best networks in the world. But a lack of funds in the last few years has really taken a bit hit in the system.

[ukiyo]

Originally Posted by Justme

Actually, I liked the Tokyo system as well, but what I found was a let down, at least when I was last there 3 years or so ago, was that the network was divided into at least two seperate companies, and I found that even though I had a ticket, it wasn't valid when I changed lines because the other line was run by a different firm. This wasn't very efficient.

BTW just to let you know, that not only are all the cards usable on any system in Tokyo...now the 2 "subway" companies will be merging, so it will be just one company in Tokyo giving much better coverage and less transfers etc.
You can read more about it here: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-b...0101205a1.html

Even if the plan doesn't go through they are still doing this which solves most of the problems:

On Nov. 17 the president of Tokyo Metro announced the possibility of decreasing the fare for passengers transferring between the systems and of remodeling stations to make transfers between the two more convenient.

[leo_mp]

I saw that of modern Mexico, a little rough but this well! Prosperity to Latin America!

[iampuking]

What is with all the construction pics? No-one cares. People want to see the finished article, and even then those pics should be in tens not flipping millions.