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Old January 17th, 2009, 08:10 PM   #1001
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this one?



or one of these...

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Old January 17th, 2009, 09:52 PM   #1002
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I noticed the first photo, the older warehouse, is half gone, just a wall still standing at the end.
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Old January 18th, 2009, 05:48 AM   #1003
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that's this then http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=5002

sounds like someone may be after a temporary car park...
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Old January 18th, 2009, 10:07 AM   #1004
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A friend parks there and told me that the people who own the car park next door paid for the demolition so they could extend thier car park. Apparently the other car park owners round there are none too pleased.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:28 PM   #1005
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Not strictly Greengate...

Can anyone link me or email me any renders of the outdoor cinema-island proposal for the site that's locked between the Irwell, Trinity Way and Springfield lane?

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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...06974&t=h&z=18

It included a weird mish-mash matchbox style quarter, an outdoor cinema and even a new canal that would have made it an island.
Looked a bit like the Citadel development...

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Thanks in advance. I need it for a debate i'm having with a local resident
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:04 PM   #1006
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official thingy from the central salford site

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Contractor appointed to create Greengate public spaces

The vision of a new urban quarter linking Salford and Manchester is another step closer, with the appointment of contractors who will create the first phase of public areas and spaces at Greengate.

Salford City Council has awarded an £8 million contract to Carillion for public realm works that are being seen as the catalyst to attract £580 million of private sector investment over the next 15 years.

The creation of new public areas are the first stage of the regeneration of the area which will see a mix of commercial, residential and leisure uses, in a joint venture between Central Salford URC, Salford City Council, English Partnerships, Network Rail and ASK Developments.

Designed by Whitelaw Turkington and Arup, the public areas will include an iconic footbridge across the Irwell *from Manchester Cathedral and the heart of Manchester into *a new 'Urban Cove' and 'Greengate Link' *taking *people *through the former viaduct. The space will be animated with*architectural sculptures and art based light installations leading through to a new public square.

Detailed designs for the public realm are due to be submitted in February 2009, with work on the ground expected to start in autumn 2009. Carillion is being brought in at this early stage to help inform the designs and ensure that they deliverable.

Phase 1 of the Greengate public realm is to be funded by £5.5 million of English Partnerships funding and private sector funding through Section 106 contributions.

Cllr Derek Antrobus, Salford City Council's lead member for planning, who approved the appointment of the contractors, said: "This is a clear vote of confidence by the public sector in the future of this area. The public sector continues to plan for growth and prosperity and to move forward despite the challenges posed by current economic circumstances.

"Apart from the immediate economic benefits of this investment, it will ensure that development can move ahead swiftly when the property market picks up. There is a clear long-term commitment by developers in this area who recognise that its location at the heart of the regional centre guarantees the success of investments."

Added Chris Farrow, Chief Executive of Central Salford URC who are leading on the Greengate scheme: "Greengate is at the core of our vision for Central Salford and I am delighted with the ongoing commitment and support for the scheme by both our public and private sector partners. The public realm is a vital part of the Greengate scheme and this investment marks an important step forward for the project and our ambition to make Central Salford a beautiful, vibrant and prosperous part of the Regional Centre.”

Rob Coupe, Carillion Civil Engineering Regional Director said: "Carillion is delighted to have won this project which will have a positive impact on the area.”

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very glad this is still in the frame.

http://www.centralsalford.com/index.php?page=Projects

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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:07 PM   #1007
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more up to date reminders of this






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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:09 PM   #1008
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..sorry.
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:27 PM   #1009
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I F.in hate that crappy bus depot opposite hanging ditch, so great news that that will be enhanced. Certainly good news for those living in Abito too and will make that part of Deansgate considerably improved. The start of things to come....
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 10:44 PM   #1010
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well, hopefully.. still, it's imaginable that Ask could yet bail this.

more huge pictures

http://www.centralsalford.com/cms/as...te%20squar.jpg

http://www.centralsalford.com/cms/as...%20%20Link.jpg

http://www.centralsalford.com/cms/as...20Monument.jpg
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:31 AM   #1011
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The thing is it really needs more trees, especially if it is to be called greengate! the central park bit is fine but the cone tree water feature things really could do with a little but more nature to stop it looking so stale! especially in a couple of years time.

right now i guess im happy something is going ahead still at all! moan over mouth now shut!
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 02:50 AM   #1012
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The Victoria Street pedestrianisation would really help lead into this, linking the Cathedral Gardens to the Irwell and across. I think it was supposed to be done early 2011 but with TIF out the window (which I think was where the funding was coming from) this could taken even longer.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:21 PM   #1013
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the centre of manchester this is i finks
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 03:20 PM   #1014
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Chorleyboi. I could be wrong but the river is the boundary between Salford and Manchester. I would say that the majority of this plan is in Salford

edit, but yes most people would class it as the centre of Manchester

Looking good though...
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 05:46 PM   #1015
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Interesting "pinched" section in the middle of the foot bridge. Is that a clever way to stop motor vehicles using it without using bollards?
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:25 PM   #1016
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is the square going to be called greengate square
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 09:02 PM   #1017
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Don't like this, it's shit. For a start, LOSE THAT BRIDGE!! why does that area need another bridge? A bridge that does not sit well with the Victoria Bridge next to it, it's quite an awkward looking shape and it doesn't connect well, I don't like this area here either



Do we really need another bridge to bring people down to an area that can be reached by the existing bridge? I also don't like that...water park thing with it's fake trees, where the children are playing with mummy and daddy in the renders, it's a wasted opportunity imo. A simple entrance to this spot from the existing bridge is all that is needed, leading people into a proper green space not some chrome and brushed steel wind trap, a green space that covers the whole of the area this 'water feature' covers with real trees and benches and a tasteful fountain or two, a simple path would lead people down to the exact same place that horrible new bridge would.


This could be so much better.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 09:10 PM   #1018
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I think thankfully very little of this will come to fruition, especially that bridge. Imagine that bridge, then the irwell river regeneration scheme snaking along poking out and having silly walkways . They seem determined to ruin what is quite an attractive riverscape, the whole river will be underground soon. such a shame!
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 11:52 PM   #1019
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I think thankfully very little of this will come to fruition, especially that bridge. Imagine that bridge, then the irwell river regeneration scheme snaking along poking out and having silly walkways . They seem determined to ruin what is quite an attractive riverscape, the whole river will be underground soon. such a shame!
contracts been awarded, this is coming....
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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:22 AM   #1020
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I think thankfully very little of this will come to fruition, especially that bridge. Imagine that bridge, then the irwell river regeneration scheme snaking along poking out and having silly walkways . They seem determined to ruin what is quite an attractive riverscape, the whole river will be underground soon. such a shame!
I see what you mean, when you look at the render it just doesn't look right. 3 bridges already and another isn't needed. They'd be better remodeling the whole of the river bank on both sides and working with the owners of North Tower and that state of a building over the road. Get both councils involved and they could create something which will make the river a feature rather than that cheap design solution with some stupid water feature. This extra bridge is only going to make future development with the river bank more expensive! Its very poor, I can't believe it passed!
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