Greengate

[loweskid]

Originally Posted by heatonparkincakes

..... under the cathedral, the core breast rock from where the city gets it's Mam(chester) from.

No, that was at Castlefield at the confluence of the Irwell and Medlock, where the Roman fort was built.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlefield

[kids]

Originally Posted by heatonparkincakes

Chur hets is how it is pronounced by the majority. I have never heard it called cheetham.

Possibly as it is named after Humphrey Chetham and not a place meaning Dale village hill that has both Welsh/British and Angle roots, full of Portuguese Jewish architecture and sensory explosive Asian markets.

More the point where is cheetwood?

The real interesting ruins are under the cathedral, the core breast rock from where the city gets it's Mam(chester) from.

Not named after Humphrey Cheetham?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?clien...w=1233&bih=641

[guy debord]

Originally Posted by Seasonedbest

No its not. Since when? The students and teachers I've ever spoke to, heard on the train call it Chethams, precisely because its called Chethams. When shortened its not called 'Cheets' is it. Its called Chets.

My girlfriend used to live and work there and pronounced it Cheethams, as did everyone else as I remember. Wikipedia has it as Cheethams too.

[guy debord]

From the Chetham's Library website:

What is the correct pronunciation of Chetham's?
Humphrey Chetham used several different spellings of his name, signing himself on different occasions Chetham, Cheetham or even Cheatham. When he became High Sheriff of Manchester, it was standardised to Chetham, but how he may have pronounced this remains unclear, even to scholars. To compound the confusion, the School of Music have settled on the use of a short 'e', frequently shortening it to Chet's, while the Library tends to use a long 'e', as in the nearby district of Cheetham Hill. In short, we are unable to give a definitive pronunciation – please feel free to say it as you like!

[nq]

Oops wrong thread.

[Tony_H1]

Could possibly be related but over the last couple of weeks, there has been a team of Orange clad abseilers working on the bridges on the Salford side of Victoria. Also another team were having a good look at the iron girder bridge that sits at a lower level near the former Exchange station.

[MVITA]

They are dismantling the buildings on the corner of Chapel St at the moment

[tomegranate]

Originally Posted by MVITA

They are dismantling the buildings on the corner of Chapel St at the moment

The corner of Chapel Street and Greengate?? Didn't realise that was going. The motherchuffers!

[Required]

You mean these buildings? http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=chap...08.46,,0,-9.51

[Tony_H1]

Those plus all of the arches on the other-side with the car park on top I think.

[kids]

I didn't realise they were going either. Looking at the various greengage master plans there've been though they were always doomed!





Has anyone seen the app for this demolition? Is it included in one of the original outline/masterplan applications? Hope they do an archeological survey.

[tomegranate]

Without reading through all the documents (or knowing how the application is structured) I can't be sure, but it doesn't seem to be mentioned, even in the specific part about the creation of the public realm on the site. http://publicaccess.salford.gov.uk/p...=J6PX4BNP40000

I really feel this is a bad step - central Salford doesn't exactly have a excess of historic buildings in decent condition, and these two appear from the outside to be in a superb state. To replace them with what will for half the year be a windswept, empty space, surrounded by dull office buildings.. Crap. The buildings could easily have been reused to be the centre of the public space - a bar, cafe, whatever. Very unimaginative.

[MVITA]

Originally Posted by Required

You mean these buildings? http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=chap...08.46,,0,-9.51

Yes, i am assuming they are being dismantled as they have scaffolding up and the steps round the back have already gone

[yesevil]

http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news...t-offices.html

"Greengate Square completes as Ask prepares to start offices"

Ask Developments is in advanced talks with Carillion over a joint venture on the first office building at the scheme which will provide 180,000 sq ft and cost £50m to build. The pair is confident of starting construction later this year. - See more at: http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news....sEdxYkB8.dpuf

[Slow Burn]

As much as we question the quality of the architecture in their developments its good to see that Ask made it through the recession and are still making real progress in the city

[VDB]

[neil]

Trying to work out where these are????? Are they where the car park is?

[Slow Burn]

Originally Posted by neil

Trying to work out where these are????? Are they where the car park is?

Yeah they will be at the back of what is currently the car park. The bridge to the lower right of VDBs image is the current access bridge between Victoria Street and the Car Park

[jrb]

Originally Posted by VDB

Can't believe these......(fill in as appropriate) will still see the light of day.

What a pile of.......

[chrisja1000]

Surely if those buildings were in a York stone affect, it would compliment the surrounding area?