Whitehall Riverside

[Talisker]

The hagoyh building is supposed to be government though - the name is stands for something (what?). If they've commissioned a new building design, then you'd think it would be a little less speculative than the others.

[jimbo]

Originally Posted by Talisker

The hagoyh building is supposed to be government though - the name is stands for something (what?). If they've commissioned a new building design, then you'd think it would be a little less speculative than the others.

Highways Agency and Government of Yorkshire and Humberside. My understanding is that HAGOYH plumped for Lateral and Sweet Street (completed within the City Walk complex) instead, which is probably why TCS haven't started on anything else and are probably licking their wounds.

[aviator]

Originally Posted by jimbo

Highways Agency and Government of Yorkshire and Humberside. My understanding is that HAGOYH plumped for Lateral and Sweet Street (completed within the City Walk complex) instead, which is probably why TCS haven't started on anything else and are probably licking their wounds.

Government of Yorkshire and Humberside?? Have the border controls finally been established on the M1 and M62? Wonder where the new capital will be.

Like you, I understand that the Civil Service departments have gone for Lateral and are expected to move up to 600 people there end of 2006 or early 2007. Still on news on what's to become of the beauteous City House, though.

[Fred2]

Originally Posted by aviator

Like you, I understand that the Civil Service departments have gone for Lateral and are expected to move up to 600 people there end of 2006 or early 2007. Still on news on what's to become of the beauteous City House, though.

Conversion to flats ?

[Rob]

Originally Posted by jimbo

My understanding is that HAGOYH plumped for Lateral and Sweet Street (completed within the City Walk complex) instead, which is probably why TCS haven't started on anything else and are probably licking their wounds.

That's correct, serves them right for being cowards and not building it. The developers of Lateral win the day because they had the guts to build that one speculatively.

Boring building Lateral, but hats off to them for actually building it !

[jimbo]

Originally Posted by aviator

Government of Yorkshire and Humberside?? Have the border controls finally been established on the M1 and M62? Wonder where the new capital will be.

Like you, I understand that the Civil Service departments have gone for Lateral and are expected to move up to 600 people there end of 2006 or early 2007. Still on news on what's to become of the beauteous City House, though.

whoops, perhaps I meant Government Office of Yorkshire and Humberside.
Either way, its a shame that the original building planned is not u/c, but no real reason to suspect that it won't get built in the long term.

[ahmedd]

Looks like work has started on the eight storey block in front of whitehall riverside facing wellington place, clearing work seem to be taking place. Another pice of the jigsaw seems to be fitting into place.

[reggie]

Oh Bollocks!

guess where i live?

yup 8th floor of whitehall waterfront looking out onto
Whitehall road. Fantastic view down kirkstall valley at the moment, it really is awe inspiring on a cold winters morning.

Looks like i will be exchanging that view for a big yellow crane and a shit load of noise over the next year or so!

ANyone got any images or info on the proposed building? Also what is going up on the site accross the road (the cleared airedale units)?

[Da Bomb]

Hey Reggie,

Welcome to the board!

I regularly visit Whitehall Waterfront and yes the view is fantastic from the upper floors.

I guess the building work you are experiencing at the moment is nothing compared to what is on the way in the next 5 years. It's going to become a huge building site.

Whitehall Waterfront will be surrounded by high level developments.

[Leeds No.1]

It will pretty much be all 10 storey buildings, a few exceptions where they will rise to 16 and peaking at the Venture Tower 52 storeys.

[Loiner]

Originally Posted by reggie

Oh Bollocks!

guess where i live?

yup 8th floor of whitehall waterfront looking out onto
Whitehall road. Fantastic view down kirkstall valley at the moment, it really is awe inspiring on a cold winters morning.

Looks like i will be exchanging that view for a big yellow crane and a shit load of noise over the next year or so!

ANyone got any images or info on the proposed building? Also what is going up on the site accross the road (the cleared airedale units)?

Reggie,

If you wade through to page 3 of the topics, and have a look at the "Wellington Place Development" thread, it will tell you all about the development that will be going up on the other side of the road....

[jimbo]

Originally Posted by reggie

Oh Bollocks!

guess where i live?

yup 8th floor of whitehall waterfront looking out onto
Whitehall road. Fantastic view down kirkstall valley at the moment, it really is awe inspiring on a cold winters morning.

Looks like i will be exchanging that view for a big yellow crane and a shit load of noise over the next year or so!

ANyone got any images or info on the proposed building? Also what is going up on the site accross the road (the cleared airedale units)?

This image has already been posted earlier, but shows the revised masterplan for the site, and I presume that it will be the one that materialises (eventually). Bad luck on the view, though am sure you knew more development was planned for the entire site. If you are on the 8th floor, then you might just escape if the new building is indeed 8 storeys tall, though as office floor heights are typically taller than resi, it doesn't look good.


Anyhoo, welcome to the forum!

[CharlieP]

Originally Posted by jimbo

This image has already been posted earlier, but shows the revised masterplan for the site, and I presume that it will be the one that materialises (eventually).

Of course, that view shows the nasty sheds in the Aireside Centre still standing - the leftmost ones have already been demolished, and that whole site will be changed a great deal by the time Whitehall Riverside is finished...

[aviator]

There's something odd going on down by the riverside. The work Ahmedd refers to above seems to have been completed because the area's now being used for carparking. But there are excavators at work the other side of the entrance to the carpark.

[jimbo]

Originally Posted by aviator

There's something odd going on down by the riverside. The work Ahmedd refers to above seems to have been completed because the area's now being used for carparking. But there are excavators at work the other side of the entrance to the carpark.

Hmmmm, bad feeling about this. I remember over Xmas seeing an advert for long term parking spaces and a contact name and number for someone at Town Centre Securities. Perhaps they are investing a little bit in making the car park facilities slightly better, which suggests the development pipeline is only going to proceed with a significant pre-let (ala Cobbetts and Russel Mellon Caps taking the first phase).

That's a worse case obviously, perhaps I'm being pessimistic and its potential start of the next phase. Eyes peeled team!

[Talisker]

The view that could be so much better with the west central tower:




Another look at two of the existing blocks:

[Smoggie_Si]

Just drove past the Russell Mellon Caps/Cobbetts building on my way back onto the M1 this arvo. The last time I saw it it just had the glass cladding on the front and looked kinda OK. Now I notice that they've shoved on a load of the grey cladding, presumably nicked from across the road at West Point. Yuck! It's looking nearly as bad as that horrid squat monstrosity currently being completed next to the O2 offices. Is that building the nadir of the terracotta clad new Leeds look?

[di Livio]

Originally Posted by Smoggie_Si

Just drove past the Russell Mellon Caps/Cobbetts building on my way back onto the M1 this arvo. The last time I saw it it just had the glass cladding on the front and looked kinda OK. Now I notice that they've shoved on a load of the grey cladding, presumably nicked from across the road at West Point. Yuck! It's looking nearly as bad as that horrid squat monstrosity currently being completed next to the O2 offices. Is that building the nadir of the terracotta clad new Leeds look?

This was already a hugely disappointing office block, and it'll be one of several similar buildings on Whitehall Road.

I envisaged a waterfront of Princes Exchange-type buildings. What could have been a superb entrance to the city has become just another site of the mediocre. What the heck happened?

[jimbo]

Originally Posted by jimbo

Hmmmm, bad feeling about this. I remember over Xmas seeing an advert for long term parking spaces and a contact name and number for someone at Town Centre Securities. Perhaps they are investing a little bit in making the car park facilities slightly better, which suggests the development pipeline is only going to proceed with a significant pre-let (ala Cobbetts and Russel Mellon Caps taking the first phase).

That's a worse case obviously, perhaps I'm being pessimistic and its potential start of the next phase. Eyes peeled team!

Bum, I hate being right, but the car park is still well and truely operational, and the works seem to be simply to remove the low wall and scrub land that fronts Whitehall Road, probably to squeeze in another couple of car parking spaces. Site prep at best. It'd be nice if TCS took a punt and started on the partially circular towered multicoloured glass office scheme directly across the road from West Central once they've finished on the current block, but looks like that would be a case of severe wishful thinking.

[Smoggie_Si]

Have to admit I have absolutely ceased caring about Whitehall Rd. With the possible exception of Whitehall 2 (and even that's not great), the new developments are so lowest common denominator that whatever goes up along the rest of it won't save the road from sheer architectural tedium. These are cheaply designed and built structures that won't age at all well, KW Linfoot and Carey Jones have a hell of a lot to answer for. In 10 years time we'll all be campaigning to have them knocked down for better quality developments as they will look as tired and dated as the Little London tower blocks. They are all what I term commodity developments, of little interest to anyone other than investors who buy to make short term rental yields and will sell as soon as they start looking tired.

I reckon they have a shelf life of around 15 years max and will be housing association stock at best after that.