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Old August 19th, 2005, 11:17 PM   #41
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Marcos a statesman? bwa haha. Positive recognition and lesser poverty during his tenure? That's because we had less people then. was a false mirage , like the calm before a tsunami.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 12:49 AM   #42
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I think we should send his body to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean in one of those rusty boats that people use to travel distant islands.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 03:35 AM   #43
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Cremate IT and flush IT down the toilet!!


I LOVE THIS IDEA.....lets throw it in the filthiest toilet bowl we can ever find and flush it with human crap. He doesnt even deserve water to flush his remains....
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Old August 20th, 2005, 11:11 AM   #44
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Marcos a statesman? bwa haha. Positive recognition and lesser poverty during his tenure? That's because we had less people then. was a false mirage , like the calm before a tsunami.

well yeah marites, back in the days the philippine population were smaller, but the number of OFW hasn't shrink yet, it doubled as a matter of fact as the population continues to grow. Who spearheaded the talks to open up oppotunities overseas particularly in the middle east countries that opened the eyes of the world in recognition that filipinos are competitive and hard workers? It was during the Marcos era, it's is the core of todays economy that kept the philippine reserves afloat. It was much safer back then unless you are an anti-marcos that kidnappings are happening left and right on a daily basis because at the time marcos was able to control the insurgents, it so sad it has to be through martial law. So, there were also many good things happened also during his regime.Sure enough he became greedy of power to keep his post, that is the sad and bad part. I'm not saying he should be given a state recognition as a hero, the filipino people can't afford to do that, it would be like a person who "put his/her own foot in his mouth". So, we are in the same page, it is a NO for a heroes or state recognition...
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Old August 20th, 2005, 11:15 AM   #45
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use his ashes as some kind of pesticide...ahmm or maybe fertilizer...
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Old August 20th, 2005, 11:28 AM   #46
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use his ashes as some kind of pesticide...ahmm or maybe fertilizer...
and let the earthworms and roaches feast on IT!!!
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Old August 20th, 2005, 12:03 PM   #47
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definately not in the libingan ng mga bayani. he has polarised filipinos everywhere that he is not fitting, but PLEASE frickin bury him. It's just a cause for stupid senators wasting time and Imelda making money out of a dead man.

I'm afraid the plants that will take in the ferdy fertiliser will impose martial law on its other plants.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 12:32 PM   #48
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Please just bury him anywhere but not in the Cementery of heros. Please, have pity on a dead man, give him peace and have him buried. Goodness.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 07:19 PM   #49
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I wouldn't bury him if only it's a divisive issue, but I don't think most people really know what they talk about when they discuss the marcos years.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 09:59 PM   #50
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YES BURY HIM OVER THERE, PHILIPPINES WUDNT B KNOWN W/OUT HIM
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Old August 20th, 2005, 10:13 PM   #51
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I think what's going to happen is that piece of wax will stay in his crypt, paid for by the Philippine people (as it currently is) while Imelda is alive. And when that megalomaniac finally kicks the bucket, her kids will bury their father in Batac. End of chapter.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 11:45 PM   #52
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YES BURY HIM OVER THERE, PHILIPPINES WUDNT B KNOWN W/OUT HIM
yeah he gave philippines world notiriety , a bad one.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 01:53 AM   #53
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Just please bury him somewhere and move on already...:\
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Old August 21st, 2005, 02:18 AM   #54
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I agree to the idea of burying him at The Libingan ng Mga Bayani. If the cemetery is a burial place for heroes (soldiers, national artists) and past presidents, then Marcos deserves to be buried there. The way he served his presidency (martial law, corruption allegation, etc..) is another issue. The mere fact that he was a former president is enough justification of a burial at The Libingan.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 02:21 AM   #55
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yeah he gave philippines world notiriety , a bad one.
Marites, I don't want to sound like I'm contradicting you, it's not my intention all along, but notoriety that Filipino received overseas were also due of their own wrong doings. Look at the so called, japayukis/ sex workers, domestic helpers who get caught stealing in HK, the trickiness of SOME filipinos when overseas, women that marry foreigners for convinience and money, those students in the past that started that internet virus worldwide, the bad choices of choosing a government leaders both local and the national offices who are mostly celebreties, the disorganization of the system, the the rampant bribing and corruptions. The comon people in the streets and drivers that don't follow the law, everybody wants their way out of something the easiest way. There are more bad news you hear about the Philippines than the good , I see it on TV at CNN/BBC and FOX, Marcos is just a minute(adj) one although it was loud. All in all, it's mostly the dirty politicians that pull the country down. Look at the Philippines comparing to other ASIAN countries? During the Marcos time, the philippines is somehow 20 years behind, now it's even far beyond that. How many years since Marcos had passed and out of the office? Even India moved far ahead than the Phil. It's easy to point fingers on one individual but one cannot see one self, that that my folks is what happening to the Philippines now, pointing fingers on one another if their own greediness has not been satisfied....
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Old August 21st, 2005, 03:09 AM   #56
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The mere fact that he was a former president is enough justification of a burial at The Libingan.
Nah-uh. Just because he was former president doesn't mean enough justification from me. Does that mean Estrada and Arroyo have reserved lots already in Taguig? No. Put him somewhere else becaus he may be a hero to some, but not to a majority of Filipinos.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 03:22 AM   #57
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Please just bury him anywhere but not in the Cementery of heros. Please, have pity on a dead man, give him peace and have him buried. Goodness.
I agree. Imo, they should bury him in his hometown. They can set up any kind of memorial thing over there if they want...as long as the bill for construction costs goes to the Marcos Family and not the Philippine Government.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 05:16 AM   #58
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[QUOTE=Louman]Guess what made the front cover of the LA Times....
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Dusting Off a Dictator

By Bruce Wallace Times Staff Writer
Fri Aug 19, 7:55 AM ET



Was Marcos really a tyrant? they ask. Or just another Asian strongman imposing order on a country desperate for stability? A crook who stole from his own people and stuffed billions into Swiss bank accounts? Or a politician no different from the rest, in a country where everyone knows corruption is the oxygen of politics?

They can't even agree on how to bury him.

She will not allow Marcos to be buried in Ilocos Norte, no matter how hard her three children plead with her to give their father a Christian funeral and be done with it.

Now 76, she is holding out for what she sees as her husband's rightful entombment in Manila's Libingan Ng Mga Bayani, the Cemetery of Heroes, where presidents are traditionally buried and where Marcos picked himself a plot when he was president — the best spot in the cemetery, just a few steps from the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

The hole has already been dug. All that is needed for a state burial is the permission of Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, the sitting president.


I was just wondering if the Marcoses actually bought the plot at the "Manila's Ligingan Ng Mga Bayani"? If that's the case, then he can be buried there but without the state ceremony where foreign dignitaries and world leaders would be attending. The marcoses and their loyalies can shoulder all the expenses and not coming from the tax payer's money...
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Old August 21st, 2005, 05:21 AM   #59
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GRRRRRRRRR, I hate it whenever I would make an error when posting. That was supposed to be a short quote. Bare with me folks, I'm still learning my ways around skyscrapers. My apologies to all of you.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 05:39 AM   #60
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LOL, xDieselJockx
You can always edit your posts if you want
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