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Old February 17th, 2008, 12:45 PM   #221
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Melbourne has some big ones, that's for sure. I think I know which ones you're taling about Tubeman. There's a lot in Collingwood (and many other parts of inner Melbourne) that look like the slums of a former soviet nation.

I've only walked through Collingwood a few times actually, but everytime I do I'm suprised by how many junkies/hookers/homeless people there are. Johnston st has some magnificent buildings though.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 01:40 PM   #222
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Median income in inner paris and inner suburbs.
Municipalities in yellow and orange have the most social housings.

LOL 'Chaville' (area closest to map key)

Would be quite an apt name for swathes of the UK
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Old February 17th, 2008, 08:26 PM   #223
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All Bw Cooper (Calliope) housing projects, New Orleans
Damn that looks pretty bad. I knew social housing existed in the US, but this is really ugly, it looks like a prison to me. Is it still in use? Because i see fences, and there doesn't seem to be activity in Google Earth because there are almost no cars parked there. Well, maybe that's because of Katrina.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 02:13 AM   #224
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San Francisco

Potrero Hill Projects:

(photo by KCgridlock, at SSP)



Sunnydale Projects:

Residents have to buy their own bars for the windows. Those who don't have bars fear leaving, even in the middle of the day, scared that their possesions will be stolen. In the past 13 months 7 people have been killed in the projects, and 4 more killed within a few blocks from them. They house around 1,300 people.
























I'll post some pics of more SF housing projects later.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 05:42 AM   #225
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SF PJs remind me of those in LA. Are these former US Army barracks? Any pics of Hunters Point?
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Old February 18th, 2008, 05:58 AM   #226
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SF PJs remind me of those in LA. Are these former US Army barracks? Any pics of Hunters Point?
THIS (above) was the, common, architectural style for (low-rise) Public Housing in the U.S. from the 1940's through the 1960's.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 06:15 AM   #227
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I think NYC is the only city to have public housing built over actual blocks, b/c most of the other places look as if they were built on vacant land.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 06:19 AM   #228
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I think NYC is the only city to have public housing built over actual blocks, b/c most of the other places look as if they were built on vacant land.
How about Chicago?

Anyway, the only US cities to have high-rise public housing (10 floors onward) are NY and Chicago.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 10:21 AM   #229
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I drove through the area unknowingly cuz I took the wrong exit once, in a mercedes of all things O.o
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Old February 18th, 2008, 10:47 AM   #230
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I drove through the area unknowingly cuz I took the wrong exit once, in a mercedes of all things O.o
Is getting jacked a serious problem when passing US ghettos? One thing, gangs out there wouldn't care about you if you're doing anything to them.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 11:26 AM   #231
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SF PJs remind me of those in LA. Are these former US Army barracks? Any pics of Hunters Point?
Yeah, those buildings were originally built for people in the Navy (Sunnydale) and shipyard workers during World War II (Potrero Hill, and Hunters Point). Most of the buildings were never meant to be permanent, and are in horrible states of disrepair (some, including Sunnydale and Hunters View in Hunters Point, were rated by HUD in 2007 as among the worst projects in the nation, with scores of 42 and 26 out of 100, respectively)...

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I think NYC is the only city to have public housing built over actual blocks, b/c most of the other places look as if they were built on vacant land.
SF has many projects built over whole conventional city blocks, mostly in the Mission, Western Addition and also in Chinatown. Hunters point has many blocks covered, but most are suburban style winding roads, and the area was originally developed for the projects.

A couple examples:

Valencia Gardens, in the Mission:





replaced this:





Various projects in the Western Addition:









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Anyway, the only US cities to have high-rise public housing (10 floors onward) are NY and Chicago.
SF has a few public housing towers still in existance. A couple in the fillmore/western Addition (the most notorious towers were torn down in the late 90's), and some in Chinatown too. There were some towers right next to the Sunnydale projects too, but they were destroyed in 1998, and replaced with low-rise public housing. They were probably the most notorious projects in SF during their time. In addition there were some high rise projects in the Mission District too, the Bernal Dwellings, but those were also torn down in the late 90's and replaced with low rise projects.

Geneva Towers during implosion:







Bernal Dwellings:





I'll post some pics of Hunters Point later.

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Is getting jacked a serious problem when passing US ghettos? One thing, gangs out there wouldn't care about you if you're doing anything to them.
Well you always have to watch out. There are more than gangs in the projects, and there are plenty of people who make their living jacking people (or plain do it just for fun). If you're unlucky, that may mean your car. It does happen, especially if you're smack in the middle of a really bad area, and it's obvious you don't belong...You can become a target. Check out this video from Hunters point in SF. Look what happens when this lady tries to deal with some people who throw something at her car. First someone steals her purse out the window. Then they steal her car. She even tries to flag down a cop, but he just ditches her. pretty messed up:

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Why do they often have fences around the housing projects?
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Old February 18th, 2008, 12:07 PM   #233
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Why do they often have fences around the housing projects?
simple, security and territory. BTW, any NZ public housing?
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Old February 19th, 2008, 03:19 PM   #234
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That video is insane. I can't believe shit like that happens.

Man, Australia is so sheltered. I feel so innocent...!
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watching the video means i'll definitely avoid parts of USA for that its scary, where i live its like damn where are the people its so quiet and nothing really happens haven't heard of no breakins nothing so happy to be safe
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In the LES section of Manhattan, there lies a street lamp inside a baskettball court known as a bishops crook, and it is what remains of that area before the housing projects that we see there today took over.

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Is getting jacked a serious problem when passing US ghettos? One thing, gangs out there wouldn't care about you if you're doing anything to them.
I'm not sure, but I can tell you I felt safer driving through Oakland than that time, as everyone on the street looked as I drove by.

Made me feel self conscious. Usually, of course, gangs don't like to start trouble, but I've never been through the area.
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I'm not sure, but I can tell you I felt safer driving through Oakland than that time, as everyone on the street looked as I drove by.

Made me feel self conscious. Usually, of course, gangs don't like to start trouble, but I've never been through the area.
And Oakland is supposed to be the most dangerous in The Bay Area
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OK, now for something different:

The Netherlands have a long history of public (or social as we call it here) housing programmes. Since the 1901 'housing law' many kinds of structures have been built. Most of them quite ugly, especially in the 70's and 80's, but before and after that - not all bad. Let me show you some of the earlier public housing projects from the 20's and 30's in Amsterdam (the pics are all a bit old):

'het schip' appartment block in the Spaarndammerbuurt:


Spaarndammerplantsoen (the front part is a post office):


'De Dageraad':






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