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Old November 13th, 2008, 01:49 PM   #361
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To have the state support the poor or not is an argument that has been going on for decades. To do so or not to do so is considered a legitimate argument and it still being debated today.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 07:32 AM   #362
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Old November 14th, 2008, 12:13 PM   #363
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That looks like normal housing rather than government owned or state subsidised housing. Is it government owned?
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Old November 14th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #364
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Check out all that solar panneling!

It certainly dosen't look like a social housing project though
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Old November 15th, 2008, 06:45 AM   #365
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Intersting...that's definitely the most un-typical social housing I've seen...the houses look kind of similar to many modern single-family and rowhouses found in German suburbs/small cities, esp. the solar panels are very common in Germany too...but I believe that this isn't typical Japanese social housing, since there isn't a lot of space in Japan...
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Old November 15th, 2008, 09:33 PM   #366
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but I believe that this isn't typical Japanese social housing, since there isn't a lot of space in Japan...
It common (I don't know if it is common as social houing), infact outside the dense urban centers, japanese urban areas are full of these houses.
There is also many commies block in Japan.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 10:46 PM   #367
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In Colombia the State doesn't build the housing. Its made by private construction companies which sell them at a very cheap price and they're given a subsidy for the purchase. People with in the low strata (1) and with low income are the only ones who can receive the Social Interest Housing (SIH), Vivienda de Interés Social in Spanish.

I haven't heard of any highrise SIH in Bogotá. The SIH neighbourhoods tend to be like this in Bogotá:





In Medellín, since there's no much available land, they build highrises instead:


This one is more expensive, thus it has less subsidy for example.


Bucaramanga (Colombia's fifth largest city) also has highrise SIH
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Old February 9th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #368
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Toronto is making a concerted effort to improve the quality and beauty of public housing to give disadvantaged people pride of home and dignity. This is Regent's Park just east of downtown Toronto. It's considered a failed attempt at government housing. The eradication of the street grid and the ghettoization of poor people has led to crime and safety problems.

Toronto is tearing down the entire development, re-establishing the street grid, and building a mixed income neighbourhood. The idea is that market price condo units will subsidize the construction of the public housing units.

Toronto has had great success with mixed income projects. The quality and beauty of housing is higher to attract higher income people. Pride of home decreases crime and increases people's motivation to look maintain or upgrade their residences. Crime plummets.

Here's Regents Park before:





The buildings are still occupied:









Sackville:









Dumpsters lie all over the interior of the complex:







Oak Street Promenade:





Regent Park South:















A 1950s/60s plaza:



It's coming down, piece by piece:













This is what has been built so far (February 7, 2009):

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View from Riverdale Park

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This is a huge change of thinking and a pivotal moment in many ways. This will have far reaching repercussions for Toronto beyond simply an investment in public housing. When you build something of quality and beauty for a disadvantaged group in society, you send a powerful message.

You're telling them that they are valued in our society and we're not prepared to leave people behind or forget about them. When you give people pride of home and dignity, you go a long way into building a solid foundation for which these people to prosper. We all win in the end.

If we can set this as the benchmark for all government housing in Toronto, we should see positive things happen in many other areas. Lower crime, a more motivated population, a more productive population, and a society that is more connected to the needs of all of its citizens.

Well done Toronto. This is something you've gotten very very right.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 04:21 AM   #369
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SOME OF MEXICO'S GOVERNMENT BUILT LOW INCOME HOWSING SUBURBS

I got these two pictures from the Internet, I know they look incredible, but they are real, just look closley

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This is how most suburbs in my country look now a days. Also many of these government low income housing are being build as towers similar to those in Paris, especially in Mexico City.

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Old February 14th, 2009, 01:03 AM   #370
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I got these two pictures from the Internet, I know they look incredible, but they are real, just look closley

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This is how most suburbs in my country look now a days. Also many of these government low income housing are being build as towers similar to those in Paris, especially in Mexico City.

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hmmm... looks like a computer model to me.

The new tower in Regent's Park (Toronto) looks fantastic. Very Scandinavian. The area doesn't look too bad, nothing like what I was expecting from 'Toronto's worst housing estate'. It makes the British and American ones look rather nice.
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Old February 14th, 2009, 10:15 PM   #372
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hmmm... looks like a computer model to me.

The new tower in Regent's Park (Toronto) looks fantastic. Very Scandinavian. The area doesn't look too bad, nothing like what I was expecting from 'Toronto's worst housing estate'. It makes the British and American ones look rather nice.

ITS NOT A COMPUTER MODEL these are real photos taken on a helicopter, ive personally been there, but i didnt have camera, its in a subur of the federal district called Iztapalapa, well its just outside the federal district in the eastern part of mexico state

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Old March 1st, 2009, 08:02 AM   #373
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Ever notice how little graffiti there is in Regent Park? You would think the place would be covered in it but there is very little, especially compared to neighbourhoods like Queen St. West or Spadina.
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Ever notice how little graffiti there is in Regent Park? You would think the place would be covered in it but there is very little, especially compared to neighbourhoods like Queen St. West or Spadina.
Why? Graffiti doesn't go with poverty, it goes with creativity...which is why Queen West, Kensington, and Chinatown are so heavily painted.
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Old March 1st, 2009, 08:23 PM   #375
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ITS NOT A COMPUTER MODEL these are real photos taken on a helicopter, ive personally been there, but i didnt have camera, its in a subur of the federal district called Iztapalapa, well its just outside the federal district in the eastern part of mexico state
It looks like this:
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Old March 1st, 2009, 09:59 PM   #376
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nice picture! did you take it? what part of Mexico is this?
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It's from google earth (panoramio). Somewhere in the northern suburbs of Mexico City.
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Old March 9th, 2009, 07:07 AM   #378
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New government housing going up in downtown Toronto. (and it's nice too!)




When finished, this is what it should look like.



90 Carlton

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Old March 10th, 2009, 08:03 AM   #379
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More government housing

The redevelopment of Donmount.







Some more government housing, downtown, for homeless women.


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North Peckham Estate, S.E. London.

Finished in 1972 and containing 1444 dwellings, only about 1/3 remains as the rest was demolished. Curiously some of the unusally tall lift shafts have been kept (without lifts) despite the estate never being a high-rise. The blocks remaining have been refurbished and remodelled extensively. The 3rd floor walkway originally gave access to all of the flats, even those at ground level. Bridges have been removed, security doors installed and ground and first floor flats have new entrances from the ground floor. The whole estate was re-roofed in the 80's or 90's as it originally had flat roofs.

North Peckham was linked by footbridge to the Gloucester Grove Estate to the north and the Camden Estate to the south. It was therefore possible to walk from Peckham High Street to Burgess Park 3 levels up and without having to cross a road.

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