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GM · August 24th, 2005, 01:43 PM

Some "commie blocks" in Nantes, France :

Tallest "commie block" in Nantes, with 30 floors :

Pictures from the 1960's :

Quote:

Originally Posted by tahk

uhmmm... sorry but, why are apartment buildings so ugly in france? at least in the south you've nearly none

None apartement buildings in the South of France ?
You probably haven't been in Marseille, one of the commieblocks capitals of Europe. There are also a lot of commieblocks in Toulouse, Nice, Toulon, etc...
Actually, all the cities in France, even the small, have "commieblocks" or "housing projects", whatever you call them.

***Manila-X*** · August 24th, 2005, 01:49 PM

The tallest commieblock in Nantes looks brutal! Can imagines the life inside that!

GM · August 24th, 2005, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WANCH

The tallest commieblock in Nantes looks brutal! Can imagines the life inside that!

And you don't see the whole building on this picture. Actually, this building has three wings, and you see only two wings on the photo. The third is behind.
This building has a pretty bad reputation : a lot of social and violence issues.

InitialD18 · August 24th, 2005, 02:53 PM

this is such a great thread ... i noticed public housing in the west are usually of isolated towers surrounded
by parking lots and grass ...
very corbusier-like but not very sustainable ...

i found the public housing in hkg and sing to be the most developed ... as the two cities lack space and has gone through quite a few generations of public housing already
specially the newer ones ...

JivecitySTL · August 25th, 2005, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WANCH

But most of these high-rise projects are in major cities like Chicago, Philadelphia or Buffalo.

Buffalo? I'm sure Buffalo has highrise projects, but considering the fact that St. Louis is a significantly larger city than Buffalo, why would it be a surprise that St. Louis has highrise projects? Cities like Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Washington, DC and Boston are much bigger than Buffalo, and therefore obviously have more and larger public housing developments.

***Manila-X*** · August 25th, 2005, 05:44 AM

Just by looking at that apartment block in Nantes, it give an enviroment that can produce social problems especially crime.

Buffalo, New York is actually a mid-size American city with a population of around 282,864 and 1,237,557 in it's metropolitan area. And yes they have mid-rise to high-rise projects that resembles that of NYC.

Buffalo housing projects

Fredrick Douglass Homes

Glenny Drive Apartments

It is interesting that public housing programs are very successful in Asian countries while public housing in the west are mostly failures.

VansTripp · August 25th, 2005, 05:46 AM

Wanch, your pic isn't showing.

***Manila-X*** · August 25th, 2005, 05:50 AM

Trying to fix the images!

Anyway, Los Angeles also has a grand public housing system. But despite of the city's huge area and population, it's housing projects are low-rise compared to other cities in the US.

LA housing projects

Imperial Courts

Jordan Downs

If anyone has images of Nickerson Gardens, it would be helpful! Thanks

***Manila-X*** · August 25th, 2005, 07:53 AM

Hopefully this works! Fixed the images!

More public housing in the United States (east coast), Note that some of these projects have been demolished.

New York City

Soundview, The Bronx

Queenbridge, Queens

Coney Island, Brooklyn

Baltimore, Maryland

Flaghouse Homes

Lexington Terrace

Boston, Massachusetts

Columbia Homes

Washington Elms

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Raymond Rosen Homes

Martin Luther King Homes

Newark, New Jersey

Hayes Homes

Kretchmer Homes

InitialD18 · August 25th, 2005, 07:23 PM

wanch are you an urban designer/planner of some sort?

how could that nante development be fixed?

***Manila-X*** · August 26th, 2005, 04:38 AM

I'm not an urban designer nor an architect. I'm a graphic designer but I also do some illustrations and photography. I play Simcity alot though and I used to live in public housing here in HK. I listen to alot of hip-hop. Alot of rap tracks talked about life in public housing and alot of rappers came from there.

The one in Nantes, though not a good idea for some, to me it would be better if the city demolish those towers and build a mixed residential community

More public housing in the U.S. (Midwest)

Chicago, Illinois

Cabrini Green

Robert Taylor Homes

Aren't public housing cool??

touchring · August 26th, 2005, 09:23 PM

I notice that public housing in the US, or rather all housing are brown or red in color.

***Tubeman*** · August 27th, 2005, 12:07 AM

Red Road Flats in Glasgow, the tallest Council (Public Housing) blocks in the UK:

Yay! let's play!

Desolate? Not at all!

...Its actually amazing how well photographed these flats are compared to estates in London

***Tubeman*** · August 27th, 2005, 12:12 AM

I used to live in this commieblock, but all I can find on Google are thumbnails:

Michael Cliffe House, Finsbury, London EC1

GM · August 27th, 2005, 01:41 AM

I really love the Red Roads flats in Glasgow (si si !). They are so monumental. I have read somewhere on these forums that they will be demolished. It's a pity.

Some other public housing in France :

Les tours nuages in Paris (more exactly in Nanterre, near Paris) :

Some other pictures of these strange towers on this site : http://eras.free.fr/html/archi/nuages.html

La Duchère, a (very) big project in Lyon :

***Manila-X*** · August 27th, 2005, 06:08 AM

Tubeman and GM, thanks for posting these images! I'm really interested in those housing estates in Paris, the one right beside La Defense. The architecture is really impressive for public housing and also the use of colors. But I would like to know about the conditions inside those flats. Also, is crime a problem in these towers or do the tenants feel safe living there?

Glasgow's public housing look like taller versions of London's council estates. In fact, some of the city's housing estates resemble housing projects in New York especially the Bronx.

The Hilliard Homes in Chicago resembles the Les Tour Nauges in Paris. The building was originally built as a housing project but underwent renovations. Today, the building are affordable apartments especially to senior citizens and families.

TalB · August 27th, 2005, 08:12 PM

Here's a couple of other Manhattan housing projects I didn't mention originally.

East River and Woodrow Wilson Houses

Jefferson Houses

Riverton Houses

Schomblurg Plaza

Dyckman Houses

Bradhurst Ct

Clinton Parkview

Other housing projects I don't know the names of in upper Manhattan

***Manila-X*** · August 28th, 2005, 06:41 AM

New York has the largest public housing system in the United States. Also, one of the most successful. Most of the housing projects in other US cities have been demolished and have been replaced by a mixed used community.

What is currently the largest housing project in NYC?

titeness · August 28th, 2005, 07:26 AM

Wow those buildings in Lyon are extremly long!

***Tubeman*** · August 28th, 2005, 04:52 PM

World's End Estate (yes it really is called that) Chelsea, West London

Barkantine Estate, Isle of Dogs... The pitched roofs were added a few years back and echo the nearby One Canada Square

Heygate Estate, Elephant & Castle under construction in 1973

...These seem to be the longest blocks in London

The notorious "Barrier Block" in Brixton:

August 25th, 2005, 05:44 AM	#26
*Manila-X* PINOY MOD!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DA METRO! Posts: 12,599 Likes (Received): 204	Just by looking at that apartment block in Nantes, it give an enviroment that can produce social problems especially crime. Buffalo, New York is actually a mid-size American city with a population of around 282,864 and 1,237,557 in it's metropolitan area. And yes they have mid-rise to high-rise projects that resembles that of NYC. Buffalo housing projects Fredrick Douglass Homes Glenny Drive Apartments It is interesting that public housing programs are very successful in Asian countries while public housing in the west are mostly failures. Last edited by Manila-X; August 25th, 2005 at 07:35 AM.

August 25th, 2005, 05:50 AM	#28
*Manila-X* PINOY MOD!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DA METRO! Posts: 12,599 Likes (Received): 204	Trying to fix the images! Anyway, Los Angeles also has a grand public housing system. But despite of the city's huge area and population, it's housing projects are low-rise compared to other cities in the US. LA housing projects Imperial Courts Jordan Downs If anyone has images of Nickerson Gardens, it would be helpful! Thanks Last edited by Manila-X; August 25th, 2005 at 07:48 AM.

August 25th, 2005, 07:53 AM	#29
*Manila-X* PINOY MOD!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DA METRO! Posts: 12,599 Likes (Received): 204	Hopefully this works! Fixed the images! More public housing in the United States (east coast), Note that some of these projects have been demolished. New York City Soundview, The Bronx Queenbridge, Queens Coney Island, Brooklyn Baltimore, Maryland Flaghouse Homes Lexington Terrace Boston, Massachusetts Columbia Homes Washington Elms Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Raymond Rosen Homes Martin Luther King Homes Newark, New Jersey Hayes Homes Kretchmer Homes Last edited by Manila-X; August 25th, 2005 at 10:35 AM.

August 26th, 2005, 04:38 AM	#31
*Manila-X* PINOY MOD!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DA METRO! Posts: 12,599 Likes (Received): 204	I'm not an urban designer nor an architect. I'm a graphic designer but I also do some illustrations and photography. I play Simcity alot though and I used to live in public housing here in HK. I listen to alot of hip-hop. Alot of rap tracks talked about life in public housing and alot of rappers came from there. The one in Nantes, though not a good idea for some, to me it would be better if the city demolish those towers and build a mixed residential community More public housing in the U.S. (Midwest) Chicago, Illinois Cabrini Green Robert Taylor Homes Aren't public housing cool?? Last edited by Manila-X; August 26th, 2005 at 05:27 AM.

August 27th, 2005, 01:41 AM	#35
GM Utilisateur Enregistré Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Nantes / Nanterre (western suburb of Paris) Posts: 2,785 Likes (Received): 424	I really love the Red Roads flats in Glasgow (si si !). They are so monumental. I have read somewhere on these forums that they will be demolished. It's a pity. Some other public housing in France : Les tours nuages in Paris (more exactly in Nanterre, near Paris) : Some other pictures of these strange towers on this site : http://eras.free.fr/html/archi/nuages.html La Duchère, a (very) big project in Lyon : __________________ Siberia from North to East : Part 1 : Norilsk - Part 2 - Part 3 - Part 4 - Part 5 : Krasnoyarsk - Part 6 - Part 7 - Part 8 : Vladivostok

August 24th, 2005, 01:49 PM	#22
*Manila-X* PINOY MOD!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DA METRO! Posts: 12,599 Likes (Received): 204	The tallest commieblock in Nantes looks brutal! Can imagines the life inside that!

August 24th, 2005, 02:53 PM	#24
InitialD18 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 434 Likes (Received): 0	this is such a great thread ... i noticed public housing in the west are usually of isolated towers surrounded by parking lots and grass ... very corbusier-like but not very sustainable ... i found the public housing in hkg and sing to be the most developed ... as the two cities lack space and has gone through quite a few generations of public housing already specially the newer ones ...

August 25th, 2005, 05:46 AM	#27
VansTripp BANNED Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: LA/Trussville Posts: 2,407 Likes (Received): 0	Wanch, your pic isn't showing.

August 25th, 2005, 07:23 PM	#30
InitialD18 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 434 Likes (Received): 0	wanch are you an urban designer/planner of some sort? how could that nante development be fixed?

August 26th, 2005, 09:23 PM	#32
touchring Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 157 Likes (Received): 0	I notice that public housing in the US, or rather all housing are brown or red in color.

August 27th, 2005, 12:07 AM	#33
*Tubeman* Jubilation Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London SE15 Posts: 18,127 Likes (Received): 338	Red Road Flats in Glasgow, the tallest Council (Public Housing) blocks in the UK: Yay! let's play! Desolate? Not at all! ...Its actually amazing how well photographed these flats are compared to estates in London

August 27th, 2005, 12:12 AM	#34
*Tubeman* Jubilation Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London SE15 Posts: 18,127 Likes (Received): 338	I used to live in this commieblock, but all I can find on Google are thumbnails: Michael Cliffe House, Finsbury, London EC1

August 27th, 2005, 06:08 AM	#36
*Manila-X* PINOY MOD!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DA METRO! Posts: 12,599 Likes (Received): 204	Tubeman and GM, thanks for posting these images! I'm really interested in those housing estates in Paris, the one right beside La Defense. The architecture is really impressive for public housing and also the use of colors. But I would like to know about the conditions inside those flats. Also, is crime a problem in these towers or do the tenants feel safe living there? Glasgow's public housing look like taller versions of London's council estates. In fact, some of the city's housing estates resemble housing projects in New York especially the Bronx. The Hilliard Homes in Chicago resembles the Les Tour Nauges in Paris. The building was originally built as a housing project but underwent renovations. Today, the building are affordable apartments especially to senior citizens and families.

August 27th, 2005, 08:12 PM	#37
TalB BANNED Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 7,603 Likes (Received): 0	Here's a couple of other Manhattan housing projects I didn't mention originally. East River and Woodrow Wilson Houses Jefferson Houses Riverton Houses Schomblurg Plaza Dyckman Houses Bradhurst Ct Clinton Parkview Other housing projects I don't know the names of in upper Manhattan

August 28th, 2005, 06:41 AM	#38
*Manila-X* PINOY MOD!!! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DA METRO! Posts: 12,599 Likes (Received): 204	New York has the largest public housing system in the United States. Also, one of the most successful. Most of the housing projects in other US cities have been demolished and have been replaced by a mixed used community. What is currently the largest housing project in NYC?

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August 28th, 2005, 04:52 PM	#40
*Tubeman* Jubilation Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London SE15 Posts: 18,127 Likes (Received): 338	World's End Estate (yes it really is called that) Chelsea, West London Barkantine Estate, Isle of Dogs... The pitched roofs were added a few years back and echo the nearby One Canada Square Heygate Estate, Elephant & Castle under construction in 1973 ...These seem to be the longest blocks in London The notorious "Barrier Block" in Brixton:

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