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Old June 2nd, 2011, 08:19 PM   #561
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Depends on what "most historic" is supposed to mean.

most historic cities=the oldest cities:
Damascus (since 9000 BC), Byblos (since 7000 BC), Jericho (since 6800 BC)

most historic cities=best preserved architecture:
Too many to name. Some examplary cities coming to my mind are:
Venice, Verona, Florence, Rome, Prague, Regensburg, Bamberg... list goes on and on

most historic cities=cities with the biggest impact on human history:
Athens, Rome, Beijing, Jerusalem, London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Washington DC... list goes on here as well.
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 08:21 PM   #562
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Fair enough, but the last type should include fewer cities IMO
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 08:28 PM   #563
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Maybe...the last category is a pretty subjective matter...
Some might wanna scrap Berlin or Washington DC (both pretty young compared to the others) off their list. But in my opinion (for example) Berlin had a tremendous impact on 20th century. Our recent times, but soon enough the history of tomorrow. So, for me, it has to be in the list.

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Old June 2nd, 2011, 08:43 PM   #564
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
Nice one
I'm well aware of the existance of old calculating machines and "computors" such as abacus. We were talking about modern computers. Meaning electrical power, buttons, monitors, software etc.
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 08:53 PM   #565
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Maybe...the last category is a pretty subjective matter...
Some might wanna scrap Berlin or Washington DC (both pretty young compared to the others) off their list. But in my opinion (for example) Berlin had a tremendous impact on 20th century. Our recent times, but soon enough the history of tomorrow. So, for me, it has to be in the list.
No - London, Moscow and Washington, as the capitals of 3 WW2 Allies and the last two as the capitals of two Cold War superpowers, had impact on Berlin's history. Not vice-versa. History of Berlin in the first half of the 20th century revolves around 2 world wars, first of them being orchestrated by the British to remove their main oponent - the German Empire, and the second started by the crazy Austrian dude who held more rallies and speeches in Nurnberg. Berlin got bombed in WW2, but so did countless other cities, some of them much worse ( Tokyo FTW ).
During the cold war, Berlin was divided by the Soviets and the Western powers and had very little, if any, impact on the global policies and economy. The only moment when it was really in the centre of the attention was when the Berlin wall was knocked down.
I'm not saying Berlin doesn't have rich history - on the contrary. But it was never as globally important as London or Rome.
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 09:11 PM   #566
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Nice one
I'm well aware of the existance of old calculating machines and "computors" such as abacus. We were talking about modern computers. Meaning electrical power, buttons, monitors, software etc.
Αh, ok. What about the first notebook then??

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM   #567
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Αh, ok. What about the first notebook then??

I give up, you win - Greeks invented everything.
But, it's not all that surprising. Do you know one of the variations of Murphy's Law:
The amount of intelligence in the world remains constant; population grows.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 01:36 AM   #568
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Well, I skipped 75% of the thread when I first discovered it and just read the last couple of pages before posting. Now that I've read it completly, I feel like I've lost half of my brain. This thread turned into a city-vs-city and a fest of superficial nationalism and local patriotism with endless supply of utter ignorance with a nice touch of hatred towards the West. I've read people suggesting cities unkown to practically everyone except for the chosen few that, despite probably having some old buildings, had 0 influence over the course of human history. Cheap nationalism flourished with people bashing other people's comments and simply ignoring the facts other side provided. There was a suffucient amount of brainless arguments that were essentially like "who can piss further". But the pinnacle was people from Middle-east or East Asia bashing Europeans for being "West-centric" and listing a number of "magnificent and world-important cities" from China or India.
Well I'm here to kick ass and drink cups of tea. And I'm all out of tea.
Firstly, if you are reading this post you must be using a computer. The computer was invented in Great Britain and the USA, which are, you wouldn't believe this - WESTERN COUNTRIES!
I've seen a post by hkskyline, a forum moderator who had contributed to SSC forum alot, bashing London and Western cities in general. A message for him and all others like him: your city is dominated not by pagodas, but by the f*cking skyscrapers.Guess who invented them: AMERICANS!
All of you who hate West and own an automobile: you should know that it was invented by GERMANS ( who are Westerners ).
I've seen dozens of people basically calling London a shithole. Well, if your city has a subway sistem, don't use it anymore - the first subway was constructed in LONDON ( a Western city ).
And everytime you drink antibiotics, travel by plane, drink Coca-Cola, watch TV, listen to the radio, learn chemistry or physics, use Facebook, smoke cigarettes, drink beer, wear ANYTHING that isn't kimono or Arabian clothing, watch/play football, basketball, tennis, baseball or skiing, everytime you write in English language on this forum, remember: IT COMES FROM THE WEST!

God I feel relieved!
The west rules

But to all the non western people here. They did not do all that stuff because westerners are better than you, they just had good circumstances and a lot of luck.

And even tough I come from the west, I didn't invent anything, so I did as much as most people in this world, nothing.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 12:02 PM   #569
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And they have superior brains xD

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you don't where it's from! To me, it is obvious that this is the world's first and best preserved cuckoo clock!
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 02:07 PM   #570
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Depends on what "most historic" is supposed to mean.

most historic cities=the oldest cities:
Damascus (since 9000 BC), Byblos (since 7000 BC), Jericho (since 6800 BC)

most historic cities=best preserved architecture:
Too many to name. Some examplary cities coming to my mind are:
Venice, Verona, Florence, Rome, Prague, Regensburg, Bamberg... list goes on and on

most historic cities=cities with the biggest impact on human history:
Athens, Rome, Beijing, Jerusalem, London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Washington DC... list goes on here as well.
Rome is the only city that is in 2 lists
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Old June 4th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #571
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Yerushalem

the place and events that generated after Judaism Christianity and Islam, civilizations that cover most of todays planet.

3000 years old Jewish Hebrew homes, the time of king David and king Solomon kings of Israel.







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Old June 8th, 2011, 08:50 AM   #572
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Old July 13th, 2011, 04:58 AM   #573
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Old July 16th, 2011, 01:54 AM   #574
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Old July 16th, 2011, 07:19 PM   #575
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Carthage, Constantinople, Thebes,...Paris.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 03:09 AM   #576
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Rome and Cairo
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Old March 20th, 2012, 03:13 AM   #577
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Carthage, Constantinople, Thebes,...Paris.

nice list but Paris ?
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Old March 20th, 2012, 08:27 PM   #578
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nice list but Paris ?
Never heard of Lutetia ? "Lutetia of the Parisii". The people who were living here were called the Parisii, guess where the name Paris come from now....
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Old March 20th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #579
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Rome is the only city that is in 2 lists
Well, in this case we do have a winner!
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Old March 21st, 2012, 04:55 AM   #580
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oh ok , nice thanks for the information
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