City with best skyscrapers outside of Chicago... - Page 3

The anti-cheesehead · August 25th, 2005, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by the pope

gotta love detroit's old and tall collection (take that mpls!)

i love cleveland's three stooges, but really its sad, b/c there only is three

It's really pretty simple.

Detroit has the best of the old

Minneapolis has the best of the new. (take that Detroit!!)

Any other "opinion" is just bias talking.

the pope · August 25th, 2005, 12:33 AM

yeah, i agree that mpls has the best of the new collection......now if columbus could ever get its act together.......

columbusguy20 · August 25th, 2005, 02:04 AM

if columbus could get its act together??? please!!! i think that columbus does have some of the best skyscrapers outside of chicago. have yall ever seen the supreme court building on front street? absolutely beautiful! and the huntington center, franklin county courthouse, leveque tower and william green building are also very nice! i dont understand why everyone has this bias against cities like columbus, st. paul, and indy? but this is only my opinion.

the pope · August 25th, 2005, 03:48 AM

^oh god, i've been criticized for my opinion!

and mpls heads up versus columbus (the two newer skylines in the midwest)? (yes, i'm ignoring indy)

Krzyżak · August 25th, 2005, 10:35 PM

Detroit ...

milwaukeeunseen · August 25th, 2005, 11:19 PM

No one has mentioned Milwaukee in this debate at all. There's the perception out there (including among many Milwaukeeans) that when it comes to skyscrapers this city just doesn't have a seat at the table. Now, I'm not going to say Milwaukee has a great skyline. But I will say it has a respectable collection of skyscrapers. What Milwaukee lacks in height, it makes up for in variety, and quality. Name a period of American architecture, and we've got a top shelf exmple.

We have many styles.

We've got your 19th Century styles:

We've got your early 20th Century:

How about some mid Century International Style?

And some post-Modern:

And some more recent buildings are far from schlocky:

Steely Dan · August 26th, 2005, 12:16 AM

wow, the results of this poll are quite definitive. minneapolis and detroit dominate, and i can see why. those leaning toward the pre-war stuff are going with detroit and those leaning more post-war are choosing minneapolis, leaving the rest of the midwest cities in the proverbial dust.

illmatic774 · August 26th, 2005, 01:07 AM

Minneapolis has the best of the new. (take that Detroit!!)

Any other "opinion" is just bias talking.

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pfft, fool we have like 5 towers!

Admit it though, The Comerica Tower and the complete RenCen (IF LOCATED PROPERLY) would do ABSOLUTE WONDERS for Minny.

EDIT: we could use a photoshop master to see what they would look like in Mpls...

The anti-cheesehead · August 26th, 2005, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illmatic774

Admit it though, The Comerica Tower and the complete RenCen (IF LOCATED PROPERLY) would do ABSOLUTE WONDERS for Minny.

EDIT: we could use a photoshop master to see what they would look like in Mpls...

I'll take the Comerica Tower and few of your older buildings, but you can keep the RenCen.

And while the photoshop master is busy putting the Comerica Tower into Minneapolis, he/she should see what the Wells Fargo Tower, IDS, and 225 S. 6th do for Detroit.

detlef · August 26th, 2005, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The anti-cheesehead

And while the photoshop master is busy putting the Comerica Tower into Minneapolis, he/she should see what the Wells Fargo Tower, IDS, and 225 S. 6th do for Detroit.

Score one for the anti-cheesehead!

Seriously, the RenCen is a drab abomination compared to the cool beauty of the IDS, and I'm glad it's in Detroit. Now, Book Tower, on the other hand...

illmatic774 · August 26th, 2005, 06:04 AM

please add them. i swear eveytime i look at detroit from across the river the first thing that comes to mind is a dude with majorly gapped teeth....

hudkina · August 26th, 2005, 07:44 AM

I made these a long time ago.

I used to have one that took the best of Minneapolis and Detroit and combined them to form one awesome skyline. I think its on my old computer...

Lmichigan · August 26th, 2005, 08:16 AM

I'm still trying to figure out why so many simply think the RenCen is the worst complex of buildings in the world. I can see where you may gripe about it's location; and that is a sad point, but It's nearly the same design as the Peachtree Center.

I really don't think it's that bad (courtesy of urbanohio.com):

And a few more pics of Detroit's examples. Sure I'm biased.

Comerica Tower

Cadillac Tower

Book Cadillac Hotel

Book Tower

Guardian Building

Penobscot Building

BTW, I despise Detroit's riverfront view which is easily one of most shown views. The skyline from the city is much more impressive and shows off the smaller, older buildings hidden in the skyline.

illmatic774 · August 26th, 2005, 10:04 AM

the riverfront skyline may be the worst way that you could shoot any full skyline... ever.

Michi · August 26th, 2005, 09:09 PM

LMich, I'm not sure if you agree, but I think Ren Cen is one of those places that is much more intimate with its surroundings when viewed in person. Some pictures are nice, but if I never had been to Detroit and only seen pictures, it would seem to be just a big "rock" sitting on the shore of Detroit.

Knowing the ins and outs of Ren Cen and how it associates the the busy-ness of Detroit, I appreciate it 99% more than just a photo.

Lmichigan · August 26th, 2005, 09:38 PM

Actually, I've always thought that the only angle from which the RenCen looks bad in the skyline is from the river. And yes, knowing it does give it a bit more context, but even without even driving to it or feeling how it interacts with the rest of downtown I've always thought it was quite an impressive complex in how it fit in with the skyline.

I mean, this thing adds such a unique touch to the historic skyline. Without it, Detroit could easily be mistaken for a few other skylines:

Minneapolitan · August 26th, 2005, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illmatic774

Minneapolis has the best of the new. (take that Detroit!!)

Any other "opinion" is just bias talking.

---

pfft, fool we have like 5 towers!

Admit it though, The Comerica Tower and the complete RenCen (IF LOCATED PROPERLY) would do ABSOLUTE WONDERS for Minny.

EDIT: we could use a photoshop master to see what they would look like in Mpls...

Ren Cen in mpls??!! Ugh.... no you can keep it.....I think it would wreck the mpls skyline. Maybe just the tall one, but NOT those big black things that encase it. Commerica is ok but I dont like the top of it. Maybe you have to see it to fully appreciate it.

the pope · August 27th, 2005, 01:43 PM

maybe comerica should go hang out with its older but shorter brother in mke?

james2390 · August 28th, 2005, 02:17 AM

Hot Renn Cen pics!!!!!

Chris121091 · August 28th, 2005, 02:26 AM

Minneapolis.

( It's not hard to see that the person who started this thread knew the result )

View Poll Results: Which city has the best skyscrapers outside of Chicago?
Cleveland	12	5.11%
Cincinnati	11	4.68%
Detroit	64	27.23%
Minneapolis	109	46.38%
Milwaukee	26	11.06%
Columbus	1	0.43%
Indianapolis	10	4.26%
St. Louis	2	0.85%
Voters: 235. You may not vote on this poll

August 25th, 2005, 11:19 PM	#46
milwaukeeunseen Look closer... Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milw. Wisc. Posts: 1,263 Likes (Received): 0	No one has mentioned Milwaukee in this debate at all. There's the perception out there (including among many Milwaukeeans) that when it comes to skyscrapers this city just doesn't have a seat at the table. Now, I'm not going to say Milwaukee has a great skyline. But I will say it has a respectable collection of skyscrapers. What Milwaukee lacks in height, it makes up for in variety, and quality. Name a period of American architecture, and we've got a top shelf exmple. We have many styles. We've got your 19th Century styles: We've got your early 20th Century: How about some mid Century International Style? And some post-Modern: And some more recent buildings are far from schlocky: __________________ Milwaukee: a happy place to be.

August 26th, 2005, 12:16 AM	#47
Steely Dan facist lord of the cosmos Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: old style city Posts: 2,598 Likes (Received): 5	wow, the results of this poll are quite definitive. minneapolis and detroit dominate, and i can see why. those leaning toward the pre-war stuff are going with detroit and those leaning more post-war are choosing minneapolis, leaving the rest of the midwest cities in the proverbial dust. __________________ "I wish they'd hurry up and just destroy humanity already........... it's the waiting that I can't stand" - Philip J. Fry

August 26th, 2005, 09:09 PM	#55
Michi about Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Central Detroit Posts: 846 Likes (Received): 0	LMich, I'm not sure if you agree, but I think Ren Cen is one of those places that is much more intimate with its surroundings when viewed in person. Some pictures are nice, but if I never had been to Detroit and only seen pictures, it would seem to be just a big "rock" sitting on the shore of Detroit. Knowing the ins and outs of Ren Cen and how it associates the the busy-ness of Detroit, I appreciate it 99% more than just a photo. __________________ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ You are not the poo. I am!* ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~*^~

August 28th, 2005, 02:26 AM	#60
Chris121091 Category 10 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: @tl@nt@ Posts: 330 Likes (Received): 0	Minneapolis. ( It's not hard to see that the person who started this thread knew the result ) __________________ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ATLANTA Every Day Is An Opening Day \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

August 25th, 2005, 12:33 AM	#42
the pope unRegistered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: mansfield Posts: 296 Likes (Received): 0	yeah, i agree that mpls has the best of the new collection......now if columbus could ever get its act together.......

August 25th, 2005, 02:04 AM	#43
columbusguy20 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Columbus Posts: 77 Likes (Received): 0	if columbus could get its act together??? please!!! i think that columbus does have some of the best skyscrapers outside of chicago. have yall ever seen the supreme court building on front street? absolutely beautiful! and the huntington center, franklin county courthouse, leveque tower and william green building are also very nice! i dont understand why everyone has this bias against cities like columbus, st. paul, and indy? but this is only my opinion.

August 25th, 2005, 03:48 AM	#44
the pope unRegistered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: mansfield Posts: 296 Likes (Received): 0	^oh god, i've been criticized for my opinion! and mpls heads up versus columbus (the two newer skylines in the midwest)? (yes, i'm ignoring indy)

August 25th, 2005, 10:35 PM	#45
Krzyżak fortuna favet fortibus Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,836 Likes (Received): 0	Detroit ...

August 26th, 2005, 01:07 AM	#48
illmatic774 Midwest, young n restless Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Detroit, Toledo, Las Vegas Posts: 480 Likes (Received): 0	Minneapolis has the best of the new. (take that Detroit!!) Any other "opinion" is just bias talking. --- pfft, fool we have like 5 towers! Admit it though, The Comerica Tower and the complete RenCen (IF LOCATED PROPERLY) would do ABSOLUTE WONDERS for Minny. EDIT: we could use a photoshop master to see what they would look like in Mpls...

August 26th, 2005, 06:04 AM	#51
illmatic774 Midwest, young n restless Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Detroit, Toledo, Las Vegas Posts: 480 Likes (Received): 0	please add them. i swear eveytime i look at detroit from across the river the first thing that comes to mind is a dude with majorly gapped teeth....

August 26th, 2005, 07:44 AM	#52
hudkina Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 4,570 Likes (Received): 8	I made these a long time ago. I used to have one that took the best of Minneapolis and Detroit and combined them to form one awesome skyline. I think its on my old computer...

August 26th, 2005, 08:16 AM	#53
Lmichigan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 2,726 Likes (Received): 6	I'm still trying to figure out why so many simply think the RenCen is the worst complex of buildings in the world. I can see where you may gripe about it's location; and that is a sad point, but It's nearly the same design as the Peachtree Center. I really don't think it's that bad (courtesy of urbanohio.com): And a few more pics of Detroit's examples. Sure I'm biased. Comerica Tower Cadillac Tower Book Cadillac Hotel Book Tower Guardian Building Penobscot Building BTW, I despise Detroit's riverfront view which is easily one of most shown views. The skyline from the city is much more impressive and shows off the smaller, older buildings hidden in the skyline.

August 26th, 2005, 10:04 AM	#54
illmatic774 Midwest, young n restless Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Detroit, Toledo, Las Vegas Posts: 480 Likes (Received): 0	the riverfront skyline may be the worst way that you could shoot any full skyline... ever.

August 26th, 2005, 09:38 PM	#56
Lmichigan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 2,726 Likes (Received): 6	Actually, I've always thought that the only angle from which the RenCen looks bad in the skyline is from the river. And yes, knowing it does give it a bit more context, but even without even driving to it or feeling how it interacts with the rest of downtown I've always thought it was quite an impressive complex in how it fit in with the skyline. I mean, this thing adds such a unique touch to the historic skyline. Without it, Detroit could easily be mistaken for a few other skylines:

August 27th, 2005, 01:43 PM	#58
the pope unRegistered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: mansfield Posts: 296 Likes (Received): 0	maybe comerica should go hang out with its older but shorter brother in mke?

August 28th, 2005, 02:17 AM	#59
james2390 Tribune Tower Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,920 Likes (Received): 0	Hot Renn Cen pics!!!!!

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