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Old June 6th, 2007, 03:12 PM   #221
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maybe they can't build the tower because of this hole. i believe it is the same as we have at Marina 101
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Old June 6th, 2007, 05:15 PM   #222
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I don't wish to piss on anyones parade but I think all the excitement about this one being U/C really is premature. If you take a look at the render below there is clearly a low rise circular building in roughly the same position where we see the circular foundation in the construction pics above. In fact there has been no excavation at all on the part of the site where the tower is supposed to be. I think the low rise element is underway but see no evidence whatsoever that the tower is.

That render is really really ancient. I think it is FAR more likely that the position of the tower has moved slightly in the time since that render was made, then that they are building low rises with a hole deeper than they are tall. Especially since from time to time some Korean forumers have indicated that this hole is indeed for the tower.
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Old June 6th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #223
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That render is really really ancient. I think it is FAR more likely that the position of the tower has moved slightly in the time since that render was made, then that they are building low rises with a hole deeper than they are tall. Especially since from time to time some Korean forumers have indicated that this hole is indeed for the tower.
So its old....it doesn't automatically mean they've changed the design. Have you any evidence or proof that the design has changed and the tower position moved? The position of the circular building on the render and the accompanying construction photos look bang on the money. It could be a deep foundation for any number of reasons....you only need to see how close the site is to the river for one. Sorry but I'll take my direction from the official render and what we see rising before our eyes over gossip and hearsay.
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Old June 6th, 2007, 09:59 PM   #224
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So its old....it doesn't automatically mean they've changed the design. Have you any evidence or proof that the design has changed and the tower position moved? The position of the circular building on the render and the accompanying construction photos look bang on the money. It could be a deep foundation for any number of reasons....you only need to see how close the site is to the river for one. Sorry but I'll take my direction from the official render and what we see rising before our eyes over gossip and hearsay.
No, I don't have evidence of anything, except that there isn't really a precedent for having a hole like that for little lowrise crap. That hole looks like the foundation for a huge tower, not like for a pissy little building. Of course we just have to wait and see since we never get any information about this building. I'm just stating my opinion, but I certainly wouldn't base much on ancient renders. If you didn't know anything about the Chicago Spire and all you had was a render from a year or two ago, you would have it in the wrong place since they moved it to the adjacent lot. It's not much of a stretch to imagine that they may have moved around the buildings in this complex in the 2 years or so since that render was made.
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Old June 6th, 2007, 10:26 PM   #225
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as it looks from here it could be easilly a underground parking ...but we'll have to see
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Old June 6th, 2007, 10:30 PM   #226
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there's not even a core in that pic, so it's clearly not the tower
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Old June 6th, 2007, 10:33 PM   #227
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Old June 7th, 2007, 12:02 AM   #228
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agree totally with you, this can't be the tower
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Old June 7th, 2007, 06:12 AM   #229
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This Korean building is completely out of place compared to it's surroundings.
true, but many high rises are under construction in busan right now
by the time this building is finished, there should be several other buildings that complement it

besides, taipei 101 doesnt look that bad all alone. lol
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Old June 7th, 2007, 06:22 AM   #230
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because nothing is around taipei 101
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Old June 12th, 2007, 06:47 AM   #231
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There is a huge hole at the site right now. The surroundings are blocked off as well. This is near the Nampo-dong station, right?
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Old June 12th, 2007, 07:19 AM   #232
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There is a huge hole at the site right now. The surroundings are blocked off as well. This is near the Nampo-dong station, right?
All the Experts on here will assure you that the massive hole is just for a 5 storey lowrise.
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Old June 12th, 2007, 08:39 AM   #233
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lol, no they wont!
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Old June 12th, 2007, 06:09 PM   #234
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belive hollie, that hole isn't for the tower
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Old June 12th, 2007, 06:43 PM   #235
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belive hollie, that hole isn't for the tower
I win.
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Old June 13th, 2007, 07:25 AM   #236
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Good observation to who ever noticed it
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Old June 13th, 2007, 08:12 AM   #237
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Old June 13th, 2007, 08:23 AM   #238
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dang that foundation layer must cost a lot of money huh?
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Old June 13th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #239
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Yes, you, guys are right.
This huge pit is not for the tower alone.

The huge pit is for the center hall.
Exactly, the pit is not only for the entertainment building but also for the deparment store and 107 floors hotel.

As far as I heard, this hole is the kernel core.
It is the anchor which sustain whole buildings(107floors tower, entertainment building and department store)

Currently, Lotte are constructing the bridge(Youngdo bridge) to connect tower(unfortunately, it has not be seen in the pictures here)
consequently, the tower will come soon.

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Old June 13th, 2007, 01:21 PM   #240
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Even this picture tells that the pit is not only for the entertainment building but also for the tower.
Look closely and carefully
the the tower and entertainment building are combined in the lower part.
Actually, departmet, entainment building, 107floors hotel are combined, connectting new-built bridge and subway.
I mean they are not alone,they are not the parted buildings independently,
they are just the part of the whole project.

As you can see, half of circle are the for the lowrise, What is for the rest of circle?
Of course, Lotte has lots of work for the tower alone.
They have to expand the hole for the tower.

Just wait for a while
Only time can tell

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