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Old September 3rd, 2005, 02:43 AM   #21
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we will one day wish we had never done this *sigh*
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Old September 4th, 2005, 04:24 PM   #22
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Two pics of the Bio centre, looking very nice



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Old September 4th, 2005, 06:17 PM   #23
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Very nice stuff!
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Old September 4th, 2005, 06:53 PM   #24
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Isn't it just.
Piccadilly Station would've been better suited with such a quality design imo.
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Old September 5th, 2005, 10:49 AM   #25
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If you think it looks nice, remember that some building you don't like could perhaps be economically reclad in the same style. Personally I don't think it's quality design. It's a lowrise box with some glass and steel stuck on, and I thinks it looks very iffy from the South side. There's also a flythrough that illustrates internal flaws which I wrote up but I think they got zapped. Basically it's cramped inside.

http://www.mib.ac.uk/Building/

IMHO: what an absolute tragedy that Manchester University are demolishing an iconic architectural gem like the Maths Tower for boring boxes tarted up with tinsel.

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Old September 5th, 2005, 11:37 AM   #26
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Architectural gem in your opinion ,good riddence to an eyesore in mine , but we won't go down that road again

Farsight , the MIB building looks great ,i would have loved a 40 storey there ,but ey this low rise box will do
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Old September 6th, 2005, 12:13 AM   #27
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I think the subject of highrise v lowrise for educational purposes has been discussed before. For purely logistical reasons I believe lowrise would be more conducive to a place of learning.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 02:50 PM   #28
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A university has lecture theatres, labs, libraries. And it has offices and recreational. In essence it's a city in miniature. But whilst the city at large is building highrise, the University of Manchester are intent on demolishing theirs. See if you can work out why.

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/

Browse the website, see their "21st Century" vision. See old stone. Browse the vision document:

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/thefile,3563,en.pdf

See the heritage pictures. Read the heritage talk:

"The University’s rich heritage, symbolised by its iconic buildings, will provide the foundation for the new institution. (Left to right: The Whitworth Building, Sackville Street Building)."

No room for highrise here.

Pray that such stupidity doesn't catch on, or your 21st Century will start to look like the 19th.

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Old September 6th, 2005, 03:18 PM   #29
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Farsight, it's probably got something to do with trying to look like Oxford, and trying to get more research funding to compete effectively with those three big unis down south

All we need are a few dreaming spires.........mock, of course.

The Americans will just love it......punting on the Medlock in Manchestercestershire
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Old September 6th, 2005, 03:38 PM   #30
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Farsight, it's probably got something to do with trying to look like Oxford, and trying to get more research funding to compete effectively with those three big unis down south

All we need are a few dreaming spires.........mock, of course.

The Americans will just love it......punting on the Medlock in Manchestercestershire
Oh Jonge, please don't get him started. He came out with the immortal insult 'the Ivy-league dreaming spires brigade' last time we went down this route. Anyhow it's all good fun.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 04:04 PM   #31
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I think the subject of highrise v lowrise for educational purposes has been discussed before.
And we all know who is always involved

Jongeman, just ignore Farsight's comments on MIB and the Maths tower.
In his opinion, anything that is tall is good. And the demolition of a crappy highrise is well... an act of terror

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Old September 6th, 2005, 04:27 PM   #32
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I wouldn't get so worked up about the demolition of the Maths Tower. While its a bad thing for statistics about high rise in Manchester to have one fewer tower, it was a good thing to replace it with a modern building for the university.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 06:59 PM   #33
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Jongeman: I'm sure you're right and it's to do with the University of Manchester trying for an Oxford dreaming spires look.

Manchester Planner: they plan to demolish all highrises. That's their 21st century vision. A conservative heritage vision and they've said as much.

Accura: and of course it's fine if M&SS, Wright Robinson, Chandos, Chem Enge, Mobberley, and Sunley, Jarvis, Portland, North Tower, Arndale, Lowry House, Ramada are all demolished is it? That's fine then, they're all crappy highrises, no call for reclad because our favourite buildings are the Town Hall and the Central Library, duh.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 07:07 PM   #34
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Stop overeacting. You've said this dozens of times now.

The uni is demolishing these buildings because they are obselete and unsuitable, not because they are highrise. Note that they are now keeping the Owens Park Tower.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 07:22 PM   #35
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Huh? The UMIST main building is obsolete and unsuitable. Not the highrises they're going to demolish. Owens Park Tower is just as obsolete and unsuitable as some which will go, but it's staying because it's not on campus to spoil the dreaming spires vision.

Sigh. The point is that the 21st century vision is a deceit that will cost a fortune, and in my view will ruin a great University. The more important point is that if you accept that University highrises are obsolete and unsuitable you'll accept that other in the city at large are unsuitable too. Florence here we come. But fine.

Don't pay any attention. And don't notice when some of our friends who wax lyrical about heritage/lowrise don't enthuse about buildings like Beetham and find other proposals hard to love.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 07:28 PM   #36
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Owens Park Tower the 'Dreaming Spires Vision'?
Dont make me laugh!
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Old September 6th, 2005, 11:26 PM   #37
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You do realise that the students will have the very latest technology for learning, don't you Farsight? You harp on as if they're also reverting back to bloody blackboards, chalk and the birch.
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Old September 6th, 2005, 11:52 PM   #38
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Manchester Planner: they plan to demolish all highrises.
Not only is this wrong because they are keeping the Owens Park Tower, but the old UMIST Main and Owens Victoria Uni are both actually over 35m and are therefore highrise.

Farsight. The uni wants to get rid of horrible, stained, outdated, shitty buildings with next to no architectural worth. They are replacing these with high tech buildings that will improve the uni no end. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Who cares what buildings are on their website? All that matters is that quality is replacing shite.
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Old September 7th, 2005, 12:38 AM   #39
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Not only is this wrong because they are keeping the Owens Park Tower, but the old UMIST Main and Owens Victoria Uni are both actually over 35m and are therefore highrise.

Farsight. The uni wants to get rid of horrible, stained, outdated, shitty buildings with next to no architectural worth. They are replacing these with high tech buildings that will improve the uni no end. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Who cares what buildings are on their website? All that matters is that quality is replacing shite.
Oh boy, now I've heard it all. Umist Main and Owens Victoria are highrise. LOL!

Take a look at all the other stained, outdated, shitty buildings with next to no architectural worth. Most of what you can see have had detractors on this website calling for demolition. And new highrise have the doubters who are happy when they don't happen. But that's OK, lowrise sheds with tinsel and old stone make up for all that. Especially since there's some nice highrises called Town Hall and Palace Hotel. What a wonderful 21st century vision. For a while, until that "In the top 25 Universities in the World" target quietly turns into top 250 when nobody's looking. And people will wake up and realise that the big bucks heritage dullsville was a world class fuckup instead of a reach for the skies.


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Old September 7th, 2005, 01:04 AM   #40
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What a wonderful 21st century vision. For a while, until that "In the top 25 Universities in the World" target quietly turns into top 250 when nobody's looking
Hey mate, the built environment means nothing in terms of Man Uni's status. It's about teaching, funding and research isn't it?!! And that's basically it.

That's a good pic though. Nice Manc sunny day

I'd date that pic as about 1987 (when I was an unconvincing goth) I remember when the CIS service tower was that white and I'm pretty sure I remember Portland with the SWF letters on it.

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