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Old March 3rd, 2011, 08:08 PM   #2101
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Fantástica a reconstrução dessa bela cidade barroca. Depois de arrasada pelas bombas inglesas (1.000 fortalezas voadoras bombarderaram a cidade em fevereiro de 1945) a reconstrução. Parabéns ao povo alemão.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 12:56 AM   #2102
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I wonder if this is a product of postwar economics. One could argue that the UK chose the most economical path of reconstruction which did not lend itself to rebuilding in the historical style, vs a desire for contemporary modern construction?
True, but you can also argue that people actually liked the 1950s buildings that replaced the bombed city centres, so much so that non-damaged buildings were demolished in order to build more of the same.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 02:28 PM   #2103
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Roofs are starting to go up...







Modernist facade:





Next to the castle:











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Old March 4th, 2011, 06:14 PM   #2104
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True, but you can also argue that people actually liked the 1950s buildings that replaced the bombed city centres, so much so that non-damaged buildings were demolished in order to build more of the same.
I think you need to clarify "liked": people enjoyed LIVING with more space, modern plumbing and comforts never seen in old historical row housing, however, AESTHETICALLY I don't think anyone ever 'liked' commie blocks - that being said I could be wrong as they built a bunch here in North America in the 70s. After living in a cramped pre-war flat in Berlin for a summer, I think I wouldn't have minded 'upgrading' to a commie block.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #2105
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I think you need to clarify "liked": people enjoyed LIVING with more space, modern plumbing and comforts never seen in old historical row housing, however, AESTHETICALLY I don't think anyone ever 'liked' commie blocks - that being said I could be wrong as they built a bunch here in North America in the 70s. After living in a cramped pre-war flat in Berlin for a summer, I think I wouldn't have minded 'upgrading' to a commie block.
The drive to build the square block urban sprawl in America actually started in the 50s. What occured worldwide was a HUGE sense for needed change after 5 years of horrible war on top of 10 years of depression. During the depression and war, few buildings were built, few upgrades, no remodeling, etc. Immediately after the war, very little money. So, after 20 years of true suffering, and in the case of Germany, actually destroyed living spaces, people were very ready to paint over brass hardware and mahogany moldings with white paint, replace high ceilings with dropped tile ceilings...and find great pleasure in more convenient square footage new modern buidlings with larger window, better light, no ornamentation to clean and care for, and a new, clean place to recover from a long, miserable period.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #2106
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What's sad is that even in a country like Sweden (that has not seen a war in over 200 years) we decided to tear down our historical city centers. I've had foreigners wondering why downtown Stockholm looks like a bombed out city like Kiel. The answer? Modernism as a political ideal.
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Old March 11th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #2107
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But you do still have a beautiful old town. a lot of these historic areas were in very bad shape prior to WWII and the living standards were very bad, but you know cultural trends tastes change. after the war, people wanted to be free of history and live in spacious bright homes and in roomy cities with wide roads and parks etc...now the tide has turned. In Warsaw, although much was preserved and rebuilt the commies after the war tore down a lot of beautiful buildings because of the communist ideology but also because of the modernist ideology.
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Old March 12th, 2011, 07:01 AM   #2108
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What's sad is that even in a country like Sweden (that has not seen a war in over 200 years) we decided to tear down our historical city centers. I've had foreigners wondering why downtown Stockholm looks like a bombed out city like Kiel. The answer? Modernism as a political ideal.
The world was once very strange.
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Old March 12th, 2011, 10:07 AM   #2109
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What's sad is that even in a country like Sweden (that has not seen a war in over 200 years) we decided to tear down our historical city centers. I've had foreigners wondering why downtown Stockholm looks like a bombed out city like Kiel. The answer? Modernism as a political ideal.
You mean Klarakvarteren district? I must agree, it looked strange to me to see a huge area with modern buildings in the centre of a city that hadn't been bombed. But I have to admit that most of the buildings looked decent. You've got some examples of a very good modernist architecture there. And still is Stockholm one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

Enjoying this thread. Dresden is keeping up the good work. Really impressive!
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Old March 17th, 2011, 02:56 PM   #2110
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Quartier II:



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Old March 17th, 2011, 03:36 PM   #2111
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Looking good!
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Old March 17th, 2011, 09:48 PM   #2112
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Once again the most beautiful square in the whole world!
You haven't been to Wroclaw (Breslau) or Gdansk (Danzig)
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Old March 17th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #2113
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Or Brussels.
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Old March 18th, 2011, 06:15 AM   #2114
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Or Cracow. Or Leuven. Or Venice. Or Rome. Or Paris. Or Prague. Or...
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Old March 18th, 2011, 05:46 PM   #2115
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Neubrandenburg?
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Or Neubrandenburg.
But since everybody knows it got the most beautiful of 'em all, I didn't see the need to mention it.
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Old March 19th, 2011, 02:36 PM   #2117
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Dresden has already two beautiful squares! Theater Platz and Schlossplatz for me rank among the most beautiful in Europe.
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Old March 20th, 2011, 04:20 PM   #2118
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A couple of shots that illustrate the reconstruction effort around the castle quite well:

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Similar view in 1991:


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Great comparisons!
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Old March 21st, 2011, 01:18 AM   #2120
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Bravo! Great view!
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