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Old March 21st, 2011, 01:36 AM   #2121
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wow, they have come a long way. beautiful.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 02:40 AM   #2122
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I think you need to clarify "liked": people enjoyed LIVING with more space, modern plumbing and comforts never seen in old historical row housing, however, AESTHETICALLY I don't think anyone ever 'liked' commie blocks - that being said I could be wrong as they built a bunch here in North America in the 70s. After living in a cramped pre-war flat in Berlin for a summer, I think I wouldn't have minded 'upgrading' to a commie block.
I can't speak for other cities, but here in Oslo this building was long consider to be the ugliest building in town:
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In an attempt to de-uglify the city, many buildings where re-clad into more modern and boring structures (seen with todays eyes). A very good example of this is the building known as Hasselgården. How it originally looked:


The very same building after a reclad today:


And that's not the only example of altering of old buildings we have done, which anyone who visits the city will see.

The only advantage the new design had was that it was consider to be pretty at the time. You have only seen the same in the US where once majestic buildings have gotten reclads to follow the times. The New York Times building at times Square being one example. Historic buildings like all other buildings are offer of the same architectural fashion waves as other.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 07:11 AM   #2123
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WOW! It is really sad to see such things...I hope that one day they realize the error and turn it back to its original look
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Old March 21st, 2011, 06:46 PM   #2124
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AAahahaha, no, you probably just switch places of the first and third photo? I don't want to believe that it is like you presented...



Or something is just wrong there? Building from the first photo is not the same as building on the second one. You mixed something there...
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Old March 21st, 2011, 07:13 PM   #2125
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AAahahaha, no, you probably just switch places of the first and third photo? I don't want to believe that it is like you presented...




Or something is just wrong there? Building from the first photo is not the same as building on the second one. You mixed something there...
Yes, the first building was long consider to be worst looking building in the city. Luckily no one managed to ruin it, although we had plans to demolish it to make way for some commie blocks.

The second building (b&w) is a building that did get ruined. Like you can see in the pictures. Sadly it is not the only one. All these building stand along the same street:

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After modernisation:



Before:


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Before:


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Sorry for taking the tread of topic, but I just wanted to add that I don't believe any architectural styles have been immune to hate.
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Old March 21st, 2011, 07:51 PM   #2126
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Very sad, I had no idea so many other European countries went through a period of modernization which came at the expense of such beautiful classical buildings. At least many of the great European cities survived the freeway boom which occurred post-war in North America. Many of the few historic centers in NA have turned into freeway interchanges, and many of the few rail lines were pulled up for wider boulevards
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Old March 21st, 2011, 08:11 PM   #2127
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Very sad, I had no idea so many other European countries went through a period of modernization which came at the expense of such beautiful classical buildings. At least many of the great European cities survived the freeway boom which occurred post-war in North America. Many of the few historic centers in NA have turned into freeway interchanges, and many of the few rail lines were pulled up for wider boulevards
In our case I think some of the inspiration actually came from America. Many of our buildings and trends where quite US inspired, and I believe we built among the earliest if not the first Chigaco-school inspired building in Europe (although we didn't build it with Chigaco inspired height), completed already in 1895. We also have warehouses inspired by the one along the Chicago river and few more city blocks inspired be various Us-buildings.

I think this in turn meant that we where more likely to get inspiration from the US when it comes to further development of the city after these historic buildings had gone out of fashion. Also add the Functionalism (modernism) that was popular in scandinavia at the time, and you have disaster waiting to happen when it comes to protect these old buildings. The examples shown above are just a few from the city, all taken from the same street (about 100m long or so). I would say that perhaps 80% of all classical buildings here in Oslo have been altered in some way or another.

But it's not only the buildings that have suffered. We also demolished thousands years of ruins and rock engravings to lay down railroad tracks and build freeways.

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Old April 1st, 2011, 04:34 PM   #2128
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Old April 1st, 2011, 06:28 PM   #2129
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Old April 1st, 2011, 06:33 PM   #2130
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good to see my favorite project still going on full speed
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Old April 1st, 2011, 07:06 PM   #2131
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very nice and moving along very well.
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Old April 1st, 2011, 07:27 PM   #2132
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What is that gray wall with 4 vaults on the right in the second photo? Is it in the quarter VII? And is that part of something?...
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Old April 1st, 2011, 08:26 PM   #2133
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It's a wall of the Stallhof (stables court) of the Castle. It's not really a part of quarter VII, but it will be attached to one of the walls of the houses, that are going to be built.
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 11:20 PM   #2134
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Progress is moving along nicely. Too bad some of the cranes and bull dozers don't go wild and "accidentally" destroy the KulturPalast in the process. That remains a great big wart on the nose of the neumarkt.
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I like the Kultur Palast :> I mean, spruce up the facade with some glass or build around the existing envelope and you'll have a nice modern contrast :>
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Progress is moving along nicely. Too bad some of the cranes and bull dozers don't go wild and "accidentally" destroy the KulturPalast in the process. That remains a great big wart on the nose of the neumarkt.
Once all the reconstruction is done around the Neumarkt it won't be seen anymore.
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Once all the reconstruction is done around the Neumarkt it won't be seen anymore.
except front and center and quite prominent at the entrance from the southern approach.
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Old April 12th, 2011, 05:49 AM   #2139
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I just hope they'd get rid of the Kulturpalast. Why can't they build something by Norman Foster or Herzog & Meuron there, a new theater, art gallery, shopping mall...anything?
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Old April 14th, 2011, 04:31 PM   #2140
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They just don't want to! Dresden is a rich city, they could build everything they wanted...but they chose to protect that hideous monster and all over in the city (except the Neumarkt) Dresden keeps on building the most hideous concrete boxes in all of Germany.
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