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Old June 18th, 2011, 03:52 PM   #2281
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No further discussions about politics and bombings in this thread, pals! It's about the sole re/construction project in Dresden.


I deleted the latest posts and will delete further ones on political/bombing issues, so don't waste your time. Thanks for your attention.
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Old June 18th, 2011, 04:00 PM   #2282
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Indeed, that's why I don't allow it to happen anymore.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 03:49 AM   #2283
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I wonder, if the one building in Sporergasse (facing Johanneum) will get a painted on facade...

@ Karasek, Nietzsche wasn't actually a Pole...

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Old June 19th, 2011, 04:06 AM   #2284
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how do you know, do you have a sample of his DNA...Neitzsche knew what people are only discovering again now....once you go Polak you never go back
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Warsaw Post-War Reconstruction to Present

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Old June 20th, 2011, 03:27 AM   #2285
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They should have those sheep strolling around like peacocks
That would be unique and interesting.

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Old June 20th, 2011, 03:44 AM   #2286
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This is seriously the most amazing reconstruction ever, Ive been reading about it all day and Im now infatuated with this restoration/reconstruction. I hope more and more European and then eventually bombed out cities in America due to urban sprawl are eventually rebuilt, like North St. Louis etc.

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Old June 20th, 2011, 06:31 PM   #2287
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I think the Germans should rebuild more cities with Dresden as example. I mean, look at the cities of Bremen, Cologne, Munich, Frankfurt am Main, Berlin, Hamburg, Hannover, and Magdeburg. Why isn't it possible to reconstruct parts of this cities? I know, Frankfurt is already going to rebuild parts of it's Old Town with the timberframed houses, but Cologne with the Domkirche and it's 12 famous churches used to be an beautiful town, nowaday's its nothing more than a modernist city, with some old structures, but 98% modern buildings. If they only reconstruct parts of the Innenstadt, spread over the whole Innenstadt, isn't that a great idea?
Bremen and Hamburg are both great cities, but with not to much history. Bremen had a really nice Innenstadt and Hamburg too, now it is time to rebuild much of this after more than 66 years of modernist buildings.

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Old June 20th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #2288
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The "advantage" that Dresden had was that there were virtually no buildings left. Aside from the old Polizeipräsidium I don't even think they had to tear anything down for the reconstructions. That's not really the case in other German cities.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 06:48 PM   #2289
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The "advantage" that Dresden had was that there were virtually no buildings left. Aside from the old Polizeipräsidium I don't even think they had to tear anything down for the reconstructions. That's not really the case in other German cities.
This is correct. The Neumarkt was rubble and empty spaces, so this project was somewhat easily embarked upon. But, note that the few modernist communist buildings such as the kulturpalast remain as do the horrendous commie blocks along Prager strasse and other places. The tear down and rebuild projects are simply very hard to make work financially, and secondly, as shocking as it seems, some in key policitical positions with power actually like the post war modernist look and try to keep it.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 12:30 AM   #2290
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The "advantage" that Dresden had was that there were virtually no buildings left. Aside from the old Polizeipräsidium I don't even think they had to tear anything down for the reconstructions. That's not really the case in other German cities.
That isn't entirely accurate. I have seen many photographs in which relatively intact structures are visible. For example, 33 Rampische Strasse, Grosse Meissner Strasse, and a large building at the corner of Moritz Strasse and Johann Strasse were shells, yet could have been preserved and rebuilt - but subsequently torn down for expediency. There was little money or will to preserve them.

I think that in Frankfurt and other cities there are examples of the ground floor of ancient houses being intact, and the new structure built onto them.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 12:39 AM   #2291
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The point is that there was nothing there when they decided to reconstruct it in the late 1990s. I'm sure that if there had been adequate postwar buildings, they would have never rebuilt the Neumarkt the way they're doing right now.
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Ahh, all clear now. I misread your post, and re-reading it makes it clear that it's my error. And good point; I can't think of anything else they had to remove. Now, I hope they can replace those mistakes on the north side of Wilsdruffer Strasse.
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The Kulturpalast isn't a horrendous building. To tear that building down is as big a crime as tearing down the buildings around the Neumarkt that survived the bombing.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 02:57 AM   #2294
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Its a terrible looking building that only deserves to be torn down.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 04:02 AM   #2295
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^ Totally agreed. The Kulturpalast has no place in Dresden's historical heart.
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I would not say it's such a terrible building (compared to the PdR in Berlin, for example), but considering the location (and the fact that it's still ugly), I'd prefer to see the old buildings back. The same goes for that other building (Haus am Zwinger, I think is the name) that is now in the location of the Sophienkirche, just a block west.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 07:23 PM   #2297
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Thanks for the updates!
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That pink gable is very simplified compared to the original. I hope it won't stay that way...
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That pink gable is very simplified compared to the original. I hope it won't stay that way...
Me. too. I wonder how they know it was pink. (PINK?!?)
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