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Old October 15th, 2011, 02:51 PM   #2581
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Sorry - here's the sort of thing I mean - buildings along the West side of that square I sat in. The building site on the right is now full of completed (bland) buildings.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=dres...270.66,,0,0.75
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Old October 15th, 2011, 02:54 PM   #2582
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Very well said! I really like your comment.
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Old October 15th, 2011, 06:36 PM   #2583
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I think that modern building looks great tucked away on the alley corner. It it beautifully situated at scale with the area. It will be great at night with the lights shining on the street. Maybe a really cool bar will go in. I would love to hang around there, and I will in April. Let's face it.....It's better than a vacant lot that stood there since the 40's. Give the mix of architecture a chance and be thankful that the old street pattern is used.
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Old October 16th, 2011, 04:03 PM   #2584
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If it was up to me could they tuck this building away in to a suburb or at least outside the historical centre. Not bad looking but what did they think of?
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Old October 17th, 2011, 07:48 PM   #2585
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It didn't need to be like this. Beautiful cities could have been the norm. Now we go on holiday to places which are lucky enough to have held on to their old (i.e. beautiful) buildings. Wouldn't it be nice if where we lived was beautiful too?
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Old October 18th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #2586
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1) First, it's a great place to go for a weekend trip. I've visited quite a bit of Germany, and it's one of the nicest places I've been there. Please do go.

2) Seeing how people react to newly built beautiful buildings is a bit of a revelation. It's as though some guy has been lying to you all your life about how we can't build beautiful cities any more, and then you find out that actually, it's quite easy if you put your mind to it.

3) A lot of Dresden beyond the historic centre is being rebuilt with the usual bland modern rubbish you see in the rest of the world, and would be easy to mistake for Manchester or Ohio or Berlin. To give just one example, we visited the Kreuzkirche which sits on the north east corner of a square surrounded by new buildings (on Kramergasse etc.). Google street view only shows a couple of the buildings, but you get the idea. We sat in this ugly square and thought how shameful it is that even in this city, bland modernity is the default.

Given how much people like buildings to have detail, character, grace and proportion, why do modern architects persist in denying them these things?

I am a fan of a handful of modern buildings with unusual, beautiful structures, but most of what goes up is just an exercise in box building.

It didn't need to be like this. Beautiful cities could have been the norm. Now we go on holiday to places which are lucky enough to have held on to their old (i.e. beautiful) buildings. Wouldn't it be nice if where we lived was beautiful too?
As stated a bit earlier:

"Investors want to build cheap. Architects want to build modern. Politicians get donations from investors. Planning officials are architects."

In addition to the cost and political nature of the problem, it is a fact that some people actually love the modernist boxes. In fact, I find many of the modernist structures quite interesting...in their own space and place of history.

An easy test to validate the inner desire of most people to rebuild the classic old beautiful structures is to ask people what they stop to look at and what models do they place under their Christmas trees? Few if any stop to marvel at the glass boxes and even fewer seek the same to display in their own homes.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #2587
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@cnapan: I totally agree!
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Old October 25th, 2011, 05:18 PM   #2588
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Some activity on Rampische Straße:









Source: http://www.bausituation-dresden.com/
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Old October 25th, 2011, 05:22 PM   #2589
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Are they going to incorperate the old foundations into the new building?
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Old October 25th, 2011, 06:04 PM   #2590
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Very good news that there is activity. Is this the start of construction, or just some surveying going on?
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Old October 25th, 2011, 07:39 PM   #2591
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Very good news that there is activity. Is this the start of construction, or just some surveying going on?
It appears as though they are going to "top off" Rampische-Strasse!

http://kg-wirtschaftsberatung.net/in...is-am-neumarkt
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Old October 26th, 2011, 12:52 AM   #2592
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It appears as though they are going to "top off" Rampische-Strasse!

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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:00 PM   #2593
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beautiful idea! This corner will look great when finished...It complete Rampischestrasse and give sense to all
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Old October 26th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #2594
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Old October 26th, 2011, 11:27 PM   #2595
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That is going to look really good.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #2596
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According to the render they want to built two houses to complete Rampischestrasse?

Btw, if you cant wait for updates of Quartier VIII have a look on the nice "livecam":
http://panorama.dresden.de/

In the head you can switch to the past - almost to the year 2005.
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Old October 27th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #2597
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Old October 28th, 2011, 04:54 PM   #2598
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Are they ever going to rebuild the Sophienkirche?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 05:30 PM   #2599
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Most probably not that soon (as the site's already partially occupied by some buildings), so they just built a memorial chapel there, including some sort of partial reconstruction.

It's called Busmannkapelle. Go there for more: www.busmannkapelle.de
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Old October 28th, 2011, 06:52 PM   #2600
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I would really like to see the Sophienkirche in the full shine again.
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