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Old November 19th, 2011, 08:15 PM   #2721
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I believe it is because the original building that stood there had no windows on that side. It had been covered in that old painted advertisment. There was no building on the site of the new courtyard prior to 1945. I would prefer actual windows, but I can live with it. There is no choice....Maybe it will be covered in advertisement again. Still....better than an empty lot.
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Old November 19th, 2011, 08:37 PM   #2722
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They don't look temporary to me.
No, they don't.
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Old November 20th, 2011, 01:26 AM   #2723
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too bad....so lets hope that it will look like this in a few years :
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Old November 21st, 2011, 01:29 AM   #2724
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OMG....these painted windows are just ridiculous...
But painted windows were quite common before the 19th century. Windows were often badly isolated, so buildings were easier to keep warm if you minimized the number of windows. Out of practicality, certain windows were skipped, but in order to keep the architecture symmetrical, the missing windows were painted on the facade. Sometimes, they even did the architectural moulding above and below the window properly and just painted in the glass panes. There are hundreds of painted windows like that in the Old Town of Stockholm, for instance.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 05:42 PM   #2725
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I do like those painted windows! They bring in some nice detail.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 06:21 PM   #2726
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But painted windows were quite common before the 19th century.
Such painted windows are really quite common on older buildings. Here is an example from former Clarissan convent in Zagreb (17th century) where remains of such painted windows were found during refurbishing and restored.
I have to add that Dresden project is just incredible!

Source http://tripwow.tripadvisor.com/slide...36632&fid=tp-8
Also one random pick from Prague

Source: http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/tt/eadd/
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Old November 27th, 2011, 02:20 AM   #2727
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A little of topic:
If they going to reconstruct the Saxon palace in Warsaw,is it going to be reconstructed partly reconstructed(like Stadtschloss in Berlin ) or in the old style?And the interior,how is it going to look like,modern or baroque?
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Old November 27th, 2011, 02:46 AM   #2728
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A little of topic:
If they going to reconstruct the Saxon palace in Warsaw,is it going to be reconstructed partly reconstructed(like Stadtschloss in Berlin ) or in the old style?And the interior,how is it going to look like,modern or baroque?
More important question is not How, but IF will be reconstructed anyhow, because goverment of Warsaw decided it is not priority, and would rather spend money on second line metro... Moreover archeological work found that foundaments of palace are too weak to build any construction on them, and for god sake sometimes heard opinions that reconstruction is bad and crazy idea and it's too late for that morons!
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Old November 27th, 2011, 09:15 AM   #2729
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What?? The Saski (Saxon) Palace in Warsaw will be rebuilt, but its not a priority, yes building the metro, power plants, highways, bridges in a city that has been neglected since WWII and never fully rebuilt is more important than the palace. But there is a committment to rebuild, it can be rebuilt, but a portion of the basements and basements of an earlier Morsztyn palace will be preserved. Construction was started a few years ago, but because of a public outcry over the destruction of these beautiful basements, the project was halted and a redesign was started, but then the priorities changed and the crisis started, so it got shelved. When it is rebuilt it will house the cities Rathaus(ratusz). The building will be reconstructed in a facadist manner, the external appearance the same more or less, but it will be a modern building on the inside....just like the Jablokowski Palace on Plac Teatralny.
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Old November 27th, 2011, 09:06 PM   #2730
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What?? The Saski (Saxon) Palace in Warsaw will be rebuilt, but its not a priority, yes building the metro, power plants, highways, bridges in a city that has been neglected since WWII and never fully rebuilt is more important than the palace. But there is a committment to rebuild, it can be rebuilt, but a portion of the basements and basements of an earlier Morsztyn palace will be preserved. Construction was started a few years ago, but because of a public outcry over the destruction of these beautiful basements, the project was halted and a redesign was started, but then the priorities changed and the crisis started, so it got shelved. When it is rebuilt it will house the cities Rathaus(ratusz). The building will be reconstructed in a facadist manner, the external appearance the same more or less, but it will be a modern building on the inside....just like the Jablokowski Palace on Plac Teatralny.
Yesterday was conference in Warsaw about reconstruction after war, here is translated article:
http://translate.google.pl/translate...%2C330771.html
Their conclusion just made me

Personally I don't belive that any big reconstruction in Poland will happen anymore. Problem of funds is not biggest problem now, people who participated in this conference are mostly professors and they can form a public opinion about case of any reconstruction. All what will left from Saxon Palace will be a sad, destroyed middle part and 3d model.

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Old November 27th, 2011, 09:33 PM   #2731
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When I see the pictures of all cities that were destroyed,I wish that ww2 never happened,we would have a cities in all their glory,especially Dresden,Warsaw,Zadar,Berlin...etc
But obviously it had to happen
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Old November 28th, 2011, 09:15 AM   #2732
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Yesterday was conference in Warsaw about reconstruction after war, here is translated article:
http://translate.google.pl/translate...%2C330771.html
Their conclusion just made me

Personally I don't belive that any big reconstruction in Poland will happen anymore. Problem of funds is not biggest problem now, people who participated in this conference are mostly professors and they can form a public opinion about case of any reconstruction. All what will left from Saxon Palace will be a sad, destroyed middle part and 3d model.

Meh.
I think you might be a little alarmist, one professor giving a speech before his colleagues cannot change anything overnight...don't worry, a lot more is coming, retrofits are ok too, but in many cases where restorations are possible, they will no doubt be done...the Saski is a unique case, everyone wants it rebuilt, and this is an exceptional case. anyway, I'm sure you'll find as many experts in favour of reconstruction. btw, I can read in Polish.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #2733
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I am absolutely in favour of reconstructing this building - it's an important piece of architecture that will enclose the square. That being said, and working for a government, I understand that it's not easy to juggle public finances, prioritize and get political/financial backing for certain projects. Ultimately, if it came down to the palace of a second metro line, I'd much prefer the latter.

Back to Dresden, though..
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Old November 28th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #2734
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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:33 AM   #2735
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When I see the pictures of all cities that were destroyed,I wish that ww2 never happened,we would have a cities in all their glory,especially Dresden,Warsaw,Zadar,Berlin...etc
But obviously it had to happen
I agree. Human life lost in the war was terrible no question; for future generations there is the loss of buildings and cities representing an accumulation of history. The destruction of the human life and the built world leaves me broken hearted...IMHO, we are all now equally victims of that war...Poles, Germans, Americans...
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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:36 AM   #2736
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I am absolutely in favour of reconstructing this building - it's an important piece of architecture that will enclose the square. That being said, and working for a government, I understand that it's not easy to juggle public finances, prioritize and get political/financial backing for certain projects. Ultimately, if it came down to the palace of a second metro line, I'd much prefer the latter.

Back to Dresden, though..
I appreciate your thoughts and like you, am in the urban design/planning/government sector. I'd prefer the palace though and more buildings housing more people in the center to a new metro line...

In any case, cheers!
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Old November 30th, 2011, 05:01 AM   #2737
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But the metro will spur on development that will bring more density and diversity to the centre of the city, which will generate revenue to hekp pay for the palace reconstruction.
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Old December 7th, 2011, 10:30 PM   #2738
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I found this interesting, and it looks like there is broad public support for the rebuilding of the Hotel Stadt Rom:

http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/pdf-d...gebnisse_2.pdf
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Old December 8th, 2011, 12:11 AM   #2739
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Are there any plans to demolish Kulturpalast?
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Old December 8th, 2011, 04:13 AM   #2740
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LOL. This building is so ugly, that every second page someone asks if there are plans to destroy it. From what I remember, no plans for now.
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