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Old December 15th, 2011, 12:17 AM   #2781
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Sophienkirche could be reconstructed, but just with usage of traditional materials and traditional ways of building. And I'm sorry, but this is impossible for today... look, how they build Neumarkt
Do you even know how the Frauenkirche was rebuilt? I'll tell you, not with a concrete core...
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Old December 16th, 2011, 04:29 PM   #2782
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Do you even know how the Frauenkirche was rebuilt? I'll tell you, not with a concrete core...
Nope......allthough they did long about the complete rebuilding of the church, about 15 years........ With great results and Dresden has an masterpiece of it's skyline back
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Old December 16th, 2011, 09:36 PM   #2783
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Capitals were added right here (missing up until now):







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Old December 17th, 2011, 12:14 AM   #2784
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...From a house of ignorance, it can be turned into a house of knowledge.
It's readily apparent who the ignorant one is.

BTW, wonderful thread, many thanks for all the fantastic images!
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Old December 17th, 2011, 01:32 AM   #2785
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Old December 17th, 2011, 06:02 AM   #2786
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Old December 17th, 2011, 03:41 PM   #2787
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It's readily apparent who the ignorant one is.

BTW, wonderful thread, many thanks for all the fantastic images!
Calm down there champ. I am simply saying the truth. The Church and religion aren't exactly known for their rationale and knowledge, but rather for their dogmas and ignorance.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 08:08 PM   #2788
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What I really cannot understand is, that they're reconstructing the city - not only the buildings, but the streets neer Kürfurst Palace as well - even during the christmas time just next to tens of thousands of visitors each day. :/



Some of the reconstructions seem to be nice, however most of the newly constructed bldgs - especially those with narrow tall windows - are getting a bit anoying in time. For me personally, Altmarkt Galerie and that newly constructed TC on the lower end of Prager Strasse are far bigger achievements of the recent city development..

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Also Swissotel doesn't really fit the area it is located in.. btw what's with these windows on the houses two and three?



at least it has one nice detail on its facade..

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Old December 17th, 2011, 08:15 PM   #2789
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The Sophienkirche was actually a pretty simple neo-Gothic(!) church. Before the conversion in the late 19th century the church looked like this:

Reminds me one in Zittau a bit..
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What I really cannot understand is, that they're reconstructing the city - not only the buildings, but the streets neer Kürfurst Palace as well - even during the christmas time just next to tens of thousands of visitors each day. :/
Why should they stop when there's work to be done? There are tens of thousands of visitors in Dresden every day.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 09:23 PM   #2791
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Also Swissotel doesn't really fit the area it is located in.. btw what's with these windows on the houses two and three?
There's nothing wrong with those windows...as a matter of fact you can see plenty of them in the region.

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Interesting...where is it?
Chojna (Königsberg in der Neumark), Poland.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 04:32 PM   #2793
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The Sophienkirche "memorial"







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Old December 19th, 2011, 05:22 PM   #2794
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I really like how that memorial to Sophienkirche was done, very nice and fits well into that area. Of course it would be nice to have something reconstructed, but this at least ensures its not forgotten.

I stayed on Prager Str. last time I was in Dresden, I can believe how it looked after the war, I had no idea - thanks for all the great pics - new and old.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 05:32 PM   #2795
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You can see this more or less reconstructed part of the Sophienkirche in the foreground:



It's the highlighted part:

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Old December 19th, 2011, 06:33 PM   #2796
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The Sophienkirche Memorial is impressive, and certainly better than nothing. I'm assuming that the plan is to leave it stark, and not to face it with stone?

I've followed Dresden's reconstruction work since the early 1990s. I must admit that I dislike the modern in fill buildings, but other than that hotel in the middle of Rampisches Strasse they all seem to respect the scale of the old city. What has been accomplished around the Neumarkt so far is tremendous.
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I meant Rampische Strasse, of course.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #2798
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Very nice !!
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 02:51 AM   #2799
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Just a question about the Sophienkirche. Were there not tombs for the Burgers that were about 500 years old under the floor of the chapel? What happened to the tombs? Were the graves relocated? If so where? It is great that they are rebuilding at least a portion of the church, but why out of concrete and not the original brickwork? Many times these old structures were about 18inches thick with the interior and exterior clad in brick and the cavity filled with rubble. Is that what they are doing and instead of rubble using concrete?
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 02:05 PM   #2800
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it reminds me the ruins of Carmo's church in Lisboa destroyed by the big earthquake in 1755.

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Igreja do Carmo seen from Elevador Santa Justa in Lisbon por Arve Johnsen, no Flickr

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Igreja do Carmo por BockBilbo, no Flickr

Nowadays the ruins works like a memorial of the big earthquake....

PS Sorry for my bad english...
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