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Old July 20th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #3121
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This shot shows the Almarkt, of course, and the four blocks currently occupied by the Kulturpalast:



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Old July 20th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #3122
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I think there enough projects currently underway that it doesnt make sense to remove the Kulturplast in the immediate future. However, I'm a firm believer that there should be a long term plan which includes the replacement of the Kulturplast with something more aligned with the Neustadt veneer.

Most of the construction in the DDR was built out of immediate necessity, so I don't think there is any historical significance to keep eyesores like this in such a historically sensitive area. As mentioned above there are enough legacies of communist era architecture around Dresden, many of which are far better suited for preservation.

To throw out my option on the other controversial buildings:

I love the Lowenhof building, it adds a much needed living city aspect to Neustadt and helps offset the 'Disney' aspect that people talk about by adding some real living quarters and a change from the standard row housing. Reconstructing in a completely homogenous style would be boring.

I also love the basement of the Swisshotel, great way to preserve some of the original basement by maintaining the cellar stonework, nicely integrated.

Regardless, the citizens of Dresden should be proud of what has been accomplished in the past 10 years.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 05:55 AM   #3123
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Well, if they tear it down, what will be in the place?
I should hope that would be obvious. They should then complete the reconstruction the Neumarkt square
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Old July 21st, 2012, 06:12 AM   #3124
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What a total nonsense! Ninety five percent Are you an old cold warrior or have you realy never been there? It is very interesting how some people always talk "smart" about things, they seem not even to know. That doesn't mean that the Kulturpalast have to be preserved, but if someone talks such a nonsense it is not easy to take him serious.
No doubt I'm guilty of exaggeration when I speak of the entire former DDR.

Nonetheless, I think you'd agree that all but a tiny portion of Chemnitz and Magdeburg, for example, do indeed provide a numbingly depressing reminder of the communist era.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 07:36 AM   #3125
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No doubt I'm guilty of exaggeration when I speak of the entire former DDR.

Nonetheless, I think you'd agree that all but a tiny portion of Chemnitz and Magdeburg, for example, do indeed provide a numbingly depressing reminder of the communist era.
These cities were completely destroyed in WW2. Most completely destroyed cities in Western Germany, or anywhere else in Europe, are equally depressing. Kassel for example, and Cologne is hardly a beauty either.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 11:27 AM   #3126
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These cities were completely destroyed in WW2. Most completely destroyed cities in Western Germany, or anywhere else in Europe, are equally depressing. Kassel for example, and Cologne is hardly a beauty either.
The towers of the Martinskirche in Kassel are really hideous is you compare them to towers which stood there in the pre-War period. Kassel used to be a nice city with a lot of timber-framed houses and nice gables. Nowadays it's just a modern city with not that much old heritage. Could've been better.

Cologne, hmm, one of my favorite German cities with a nice atmosphere But, not the most beautiful city of all. I mean, the Hohe Straße, full of modernist buildings, glass and steel etc. The only reconstructed part of the Altstadt is the area around the Große Martinskirche, and at the promenade of the Rhine. Nice work, but from such a big city you can expect really more rebuildings of heritage, especially around the Domplatz, the northern part around the Kunibertkirche and Ursulakirche and southern part around the Severinskirche and Georgenkirche.
So why not reconstruct streets/squares/whatever in Cologne?

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Old July 21st, 2012, 02:11 PM   #3127
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People, please. This thread is about the Neumarkt project in Dresden.

We have more than enough threads about war losses in European cities in this forum.

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Old July 21st, 2012, 02:28 PM   #3128
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Old July 21st, 2012, 08:54 PM   #3129
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Old footage of the castle and other sights of Dresden:

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Old July 22nd, 2012, 03:48 PM   #3130
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I quite like that small grey building in the backrgound. How much of Dresden are they planning to rebuild eventually, is there a map or something?
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 06:00 PM   #3131
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I quite like that small grey building in the backrgound. How much of Dresden are they planning to rebuild eventually, is there a map or something?
me too , very nice!
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 06:59 PM   #3132
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Well, it certainly looks better than the Motel 6 on the right.
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 08:47 PM   #3133
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I quite like that small grey building in the backrgound.
It fits very well into that corner and its shape certainly is in harmony with the other buildings. Unfortunately the drab color does not compliment the surroundings. Also, only two houses down from the grey building we have this:

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Unlike the grey building this one has no pleasing shape. For both of them to be so close to each other only makes the blandness that much more obvious. I hope they will eventually be painted to blend with the colorful Baroque-style houses between them.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 06:40 AM   #3134
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Rampische Straße

Did they demolish the basements at Rampische Straße. Too bad, it seems they used the basements effectively and creatively in the Swiss Hotel Spa.
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 09:10 AM   #3135
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Good question.

I was wondering the same thing about Rampische Straße and the other quarters as well.

Does anybody know?
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 10:13 AM   #3136
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It fits very well into that corner and its shape certainly is in harmony with the other buildings. Unfortunately the drab color does not compliment the surroundings. Also, only two houses down from the grey building we have this:

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i like the graphite gray color very much. what is good with the gray building is the fact that there is no forced distinction between facade and roof which makes it quite contemporary and modern.
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Unlike the grey building this one has no pleasing shape. For both of them to be so close to each other only makes the blandness that much more obvious. I hope they will eventually be painted to blend with the colorful Baroque-style houses between them.
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well, i have to say that many reconstructed building in the actual square to me look , hm how to say...maybe to much like some postmodern buildings and not like some old ones that were being reconstructed. i dont see much of a diference between that one that you do not like and most of ones that you can see from this angle.



if i look through by eyelashes the whole block(the lest part with 3 houses) looks kind of like new in terms of its architecture, with postmodern touch (maybe because of so many roof windows, maybe because everything is so perfectly sharp, dunno, yet it lacks something.....
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Old July 23rd, 2012, 06:54 PM   #3138
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A quick question that's maybe a little bit of topic.
I'm going to visit Dresden in the beginning of august.
Off course I'm going to see the neumarkt, but what other things should I see as well?
And what's there to see on the other side of the river?
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A quick question that's maybe a little bit of topic.
I'm going to visit Dresden in the beginning of august.
Off course I'm going to see the neumarkt, but what other things should I see as well?
And what's there to see on the other side of the river?

The other side of the river and the altmarkt - not so much.
See the Grosser Garten.
Allow a day for the schloss.
See Yednize - the old cigarette factory (now an office bldg)
On the other side of the river see the - I think it is called the Japanese Palais.
Also spend some time in Miessen.
Tour the museums and spend time in the Frauenkirche.

I am also planning to get back to Dresden soon. Hopefully around Christmas, the Christmas market and getting some good Dresden stollen
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Opera house, Zwinger, Hofkirche and Pillnitz Castle are not to be missed.

Check more here:
http://www.dresden.de/dtg/en/index.php
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