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Old July 24th, 2012, 04:43 AM   #3141
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I visited Dresden in 1998 invited by the Friedrich Naumann Stiftung, what a city I didn't know about it before and I was so impressed by its beauty!
I'm so happy to see it been rebuild, specially the Frauenkirche "Cathedral of Our Dear Lady".

Here in the US the word "Dresden" it's currently used as a verb to describe a political tactic of destroying an opponent with a massive campaign of negative ads against him.
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Old July 24th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #3142
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Old July 24th, 2012, 02:11 PM   #3143
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Amazing city, I visited Dresden last week for the first time!

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Would love to go back in a few years to see how it all changed again!
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Old July 25th, 2012, 05:48 PM   #3144
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^ Wow great photos, thanks for posting.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #3145
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I love the Lowenhof building, it adds a much needed living city aspect to Neustadt and helps offset the 'Disney' aspect that people talk about by adding some real living quarters and a change from the standard row housing. Reconstructing in a completely homogenous style would be boring.

I disagree completely about the Lowenhof. It is no more aesthetically pleasing and harmonious than the wreck it replaced, and it is a missed opportunity to right some of the wrongs inflicted on the cityscape.

Here is what 'could have been':

[IMG]http://i41.************/awlrd.jpg[/IMG]

People certainly TALK about the 'Disney Thing', but that doesn't validate the point. It is usually offered up to support the idea that modernist insertions into a historical reconstruction project are somehow appropriate.

I must ask: do you think that pre-1945 Dresden was 'boring'?
I'm guessing that the answer to that would be 'no', in which case I wonder why reconstructing it as it once looked would be 'boring'. In case you DO think pre-1945 Dresden was boring, WTF?

As there is plenty of space outside the designated historical areas to keep Stalinist structures, so is there plenty of space outside them for the Modernists to play and play. I find that style of architecture wholly unsuitable next to historical or reconstructed buildings, and the insistence of some that they be included seems almost spiteful.
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Old July 25th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #3146
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I disagree completely about the Lowenhof. It is no more aesthetically pleasing and harmonious than the wreck it replaced, and it is a missed opportunity to right some of the wrongs inflicted on the cityscape.
It looks like a bloody Motel 6.


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Here is what 'could have been':

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Old July 25th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #3147
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Isn't that a rendering of a Dresden-Neustadt project?
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Old July 25th, 2012, 10:36 PM   #3148
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Isn't that a rendering of a Dresden-Neustadt project?
It's what could have been:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1046285

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http://translate.google.com/translat...046285&act=url
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Old July 27th, 2012, 07:11 PM   #3149
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I recently found an interesting photograph of a scale model of Dresden. Unfortunately no information was provided about its history or the location where it can be found. I'm guessing it was made prior to the war since it shows the original Frauenkirche as it looked back then, covered in layers of soot and grime. Does anybody here know the story behind it or where I can locate other images? Thank you.



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Old July 27th, 2012, 07:22 PM   #3150
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I disagree completely about the Lowenhof. It is no more aesthetically pleasing and harmonious than the wreck it replaced, and it is a missed opportunity to right some of the wrongs inflicted on the cityscape.
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I must ask: do you think that pre-1945 Dresden was 'boring'?
I'm guessing that the answer to that would be 'no', in which case I wonder why reconstructing it as it once looked would be 'boring'. In case you DO think pre-1945 Dresden was boring, WTF?

As there is plenty of space outside the designated historical areas to keep Stalinist structures, so is there plenty of space outside them for the Modernists to play and play. I find that style of architecture wholly unsuitable next to historical or reconstructed buildings, and the insistence of some that they be included seems almost spiteful.
Dont get me wrong, I'm a huge proponent of rebuilding the Neustadt in a historically accurate manner consistent with the pre-45 architectural style. However, I think there are opportunities to introduce variances to a homogenous style, something that would have existed in 45, and would definitely existed had Dresden not been destroyed. I see this as less of a boring vs. exciting argument and more of an argument to recreate Neustadt in a way which will promote a mixed use as a living city.

Regardless Lowenhof is a little residential corner out of the way, I get more worked up about modern monstrosities like the Berlin Stadtschloss east wall or the proposed modern Hauptstrasse.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #3151
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What the Hotel Stadt Rom could look like...let's all hope it'll be built this way:





Looks even better with the Communist apartment blocks removed:



Source: http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/durch...r-strasse.html
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Old July 29th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #3152
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Without communist block looks perfect
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Old July 29th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #3153
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Will surely be better if they completely eliminate all the ugly communist buildings, also replaced with new modern buildings, but with a certain taste
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Old July 30th, 2012, 08:29 PM   #3154
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Will surely be better if they completely eliminate all the ugly communist buildings, also replaced with new modern buildings, but with a certain taste
I think that everything north of Wilsdruffer Strasse should be reconstructed in a historical manner. There is plenty of room elsewhere for modernist architecture.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #3155
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Dont get me wrong, I'm a huge proponent of rebuilding the Neustadt in a historically accurate manner consistent with the pre-45 architectural style. However, I think there are opportunities to introduce variances to a homogenous style, something that would have existed in 45, and would definitely existed had Dresden not been destroyed. I see this as less of a boring vs. exciting argument and more of an argument to recreate Neustadt in a way which will promote a mixed use as a living city.

Regardless Lowenhof is a little residential corner out of the way, I get more worked up about modern monstrosities like the Berlin Stadtschloss east wall or the proposed modern Hauptstrasse.
I was mistaken about the Lowenhof. I confused it with the new structure on the Hauptstrasse, which was built instead of the historical reconstructions:

http://translate.google.com/translat...046285&act=url

I think that the solution is historical facades and modern interiors.
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Old July 31st, 2012, 06:37 AM   #3156
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Kampflamm,

What the heck is going on there? The shot of MOritzstrasse to the Johanneum - is that a minaret?
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Old July 31st, 2012, 11:09 AM   #3157
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I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be a simplified version of the Hofkirche's spire :

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Moritzstrasse to Johanneum

Not that there is anything wrong with that, if it was a minaret. I just thought maybe Yednize cigarettes was opening an outlet store in the alt markt.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 12:55 AM   #3159
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It's not about Neumarkt but pretty close. Check this wonderful website regarding the reconstruction and restoration of some of Residenzschloss' amazing chandeliers and other light fixtures!

http://www.historische-leuchten-jaco...referenzen.htm

It's in german but the images are well worth seeing even if you can't read it.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 12:42 PM   #3160
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[QUOTE=dbmillbank;93542740]The other side of the river and the altmarkt - not so much.
See the Grosser Garten.
Allow a day for the schloss.
See Yednize - the old cigarette factory (now an office bldg)
On the other side of the river see the - I think it is called the Japanese Palais.
Also spend some time in Miessen.
Tour the museums and spend time in the Frauenkirche.

Don't forget Neustadt. Lot of older blocks there. Night life in LouisenStrasse.

Take the wire-train up the hills and get a nice view. Hotel Bellevue has the best view to Altstadt.
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