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Old September 24th, 2012, 04:52 PM   #3261
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Old September 24th, 2012, 06:12 PM   #3262
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Some architects still think that if the pre-war buildings get reconstructed Hitler will rise from the grave.

In other countries they think we will suddenly destroy our beloved post-war welfare states, stop the progress and go back to the oppresive times of industrial revolution and live in what they call "slums" again.

All in the name of progress!
Is that what they call Prague's Old Town? A slum? Or any other part of the city center? No, they don't. So, why would a reconstructed Dresden, inside the Ring-strasse, be a bad thing in any conceivable way? I know that will never happen, but the area north of Johann-strasse, why not?

An aside: does anyone have a picture of any kind of the area now occupied by the Polizei Praesidium? I'm glad it survived the bombing, but it hardly belongs there from an architecturally harmonious perspective.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 05:59 AM   #3263
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I stayed in a hotel on the Nieritzstraße in the Neustadt- very charming and attractive area of the city.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 06:14 AM   #3264
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Does anyone know what this statue is and if it has been rebuilt? I like it.




http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...athedralen.jpg
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Old September 25th, 2012, 06:25 AM   #3265
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You can find loads of pictures of Dresden from all times in this Wiki Commons category:

Wiki Category: Dresden by year

Thank you for posting this very nice link.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 09:39 AM   #3266
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Is that what they call Prague's Old Town? A slum? Or any other part of the city center? No, they don't. So, why would a reconstructed Dresden, inside the Ring-strasse, be a bad thing in any conceivable way? I know that will never happen, but the area north of Johann-strasse, why not?
Actually it's one of the mostly used arguments of "modernists". If anybody wants to tear down their commieblock masterpiecies to rebuild historical houses they ask if you also want to destroy the sanitation and live without central heating (aka "That's how they lived in 18th c.!"). And this happens all the time..
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Old September 25th, 2012, 08:21 PM   #3267
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Does anyone know what this statue is and if it has been rebuilt? I like it.




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It is on the staircase leading from the Augustus Bridge up to the Brühl terrace. It survived the bombing and is in its original state.
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Old September 25th, 2012, 08:46 PM   #3268
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Some article in the Sachsische Zeitung about the reconstruction of the Hotel Stadt Rom:



Hotel Stadt Rom soll neu entstehen – aber wie?

Für den Wiederaufbau gibt es mehrere Varianten. Für eine zeichnet sich eine Mehrheit ab.

Der Streit um den Wiederaufbau des Hotels Stadt Rom am südlichen Ende des Neumarkts geht weiter. Der Bauausschuss hat die Entscheidung über eine Vorzugsvariante gestern vertagt. Der Stadtrat entscheidet nun in seiner kommenden Sitzung über das Projekt.

Das Problem: Am Originalstandort und in der historischen Größe lässt sich das barocke Haus nur wiedererrichten, wenn die Häuser an der Wilsdruffer Straße 4 bis 12 und 14 bis 16 zuvor ganz oder teilweise abgerissen werden. Eigentümer der Gebäude ist seit 2005 die Gagfah. Ein Kauf des Komplexes würde die Stadt jedoch etwa sieben Millionen Euro kosten. Geld, das sie zurzeit nicht hat.

Um eine Lösung zu finden, wurde im vergangenen Jahr ein Werkstattverfahren ins Leben gerufen. Hierfür entwarfen Architekturbüros mehrere Szenarien. Die Stadt favorisiert nun eine Variante, wonach das Hotel um etwa acht Meter in nördlicher Richtung verschoben würde. Bestehende Gebäude sollen erhalten bleiben, die Moritzstraße würde nicht wiedererrichtet. Geborgene Originalteile sollen in die Fassade eingearbeitet werden.

Der baupolitische Sprecher der CDU, Hans-Joachim Brauns, sprach sich gestern jedoch für den Bau am Originalstandort aus. Die hohen Kosten für den Kauf und den Teilabriss der Häuser an der Wilsdruffer Straße schrecken ihn nicht ab. Die Zeit für den Wiederaufbau des Hotels Stadt Rom dränge nicht, sagte er. Im Bauausschuss zeichnete sich eine knappe Mehrheit für die Verschiebung des Hotels Stadt Rom ab. Auf Antrag der Grünen wurde das Projekt in den Stadtrat gehoben.

Vertagt wurde auch der Entscheid über die Bebauungspläne für die Quartiere VI und VII nördlich und östlich des Kulturpalastes. Für die Grundstücke gibt es mehrere Interessenten.


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Hotel Stadt Rom will be reconstructed - But how?
For reconstruction, there are several variants (...)

The battle about the reconstruction of Hotel Stadt Rom at the southern edge of the Neumarkt continues. The Building Committee had postponed a decision on a preferred option yesterday. The Stadtrat (City Council) then decides in its upcoming meeting about the project.

The problem: on the original location and the historical size where the baroque house should be rebuild, are standing the Wilsdruffer Straße 4 to 12 and 14 to 16 in the way. For there these buildings have to be torn down to rebuild the Hotel Stadt Rom. Owner of the apartments is since 2005 Gagfah. A purchase of the complex would cost about seven million dollars. Money that they don't have yet.

In order to find a sollution that was started last year as a workshop (...).
For this purpose several scene's were designed by a few different architect bureau's. The City prefers now a variant where the Hotel Stadt Rom is moved north by 8 meters to preserve the existing buildings, the Moritzstraße wouldn't be rebuild.
Salvaged original parts would be incorporated in the facade.

The spokesman of the CDU, Hans-Joachim Braun, spoke yesterday and called for a reconstruction on the original site. The high cost of purchasing and the partial demolition of the houses on the street Wilsdruffer not deter him.
The reconstruction of the Hotel Stadt Rom would not be urged. The building committee were signs a slight majority of the displacement of the Hotel Stadt Rom. At the request of the Greens, the project was raised in the city council.

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Old September 26th, 2012, 04:00 AM   #3269
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It is on the staircase leading from the Augustus Bridge up to the Brühl terrace. It survived the bombing and is in its original state.
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Some article in the Sachsische Zeitung about the reconstruction of the Hotel Stadt Rom:

I hope it is reconstructed - it looks like it was quite a beautiful and elegant building.
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Old September 27th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #3270
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The spokesman of the CDU, Hans-Joachim Braun, spoke yesterday and called for a reconstruction on the original site. The high cost of purchasing and the partial demolition of the houses on the street Wilsdruffer not deter him.


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I love that guy! I would like to see that whole block rebuilt, with the Stadt Rom on one end and that odd 19th century building on Wilsdruffer-Strasse.

This one:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...9&l=16144bf6af
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Old September 27th, 2012, 10:01 PM   #3271
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That's how it should be. The blocks on the Wilsdruffer Straße aren't that beautiful, so why not demolish them, rebuil the Hotel Stadt Romer and surrounding houses on the Moritzstraße and the building in the link at the place of the commie blocks?
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Old September 27th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #3272
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Old September 27th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #3273
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That's how it should be. The blocks on the Wilsdruffer Straße aren't that beautiful, so why not demolish them, rebuil the Hotel Stadt Romer and surrounding houses on the Moritzstraße and the building in the link at the place of the commie blocks?

It will never happen, at least not that way. That bulding that I like so much was part of the "König-Johann Durchbruch" of the 1880s. This project essentially connected the Postplatz with Pirnaischer Platz, and destroying all the old structures along Wilsdruffer-strasse east of the Almarkt. These were replaced by Neo-Renaissance structures, which did not exactly blend in with the surrounding area. Unpopular almost from their beginning, there is no chance in hell any of them will be rebuilt. I find the one in the painting to be oddly fascinating, though. Here is a link showing the plan for the project, new structures in blue:

http://www.deutschefotothek.de/db/ap...TbD42_Aeb0w44=
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Old September 28th, 2012, 06:32 PM   #3274
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Well, if I ever win the State Lotery, why not?
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Old October 2nd, 2012, 08:46 AM   #3276
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About a year ago I read about the planned reconstruction and restoration of the Hotel Stadt Leipzig in Dresden. The article said that it was not going forward.

Is that correct? Is there a chance it may be restored? It looks like a very interesting building that could be a beautiful hotel again.

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Old October 6th, 2012, 06:59 AM   #3277
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About a year ago I read about the planned reconstruction and restoration of the Hotel Stadt Leipzig in Dresden. The article said that it was not going forward.

Is that correct? Is there a chance it may be restored? It looks like a very interesting building that could be a beautiful hotel again.
Here is a link to a Dresden blog about the Hotel Leipzig.
http://www.bausituation-dresden.com/...t-leipzig.html

From Reading the newspapers, it seems it is not dead just delayed because of the economy. Interesting though, it seems there are too many hotels in the area and it will be condominiums rather then a hotel with retail on the ground floor. I also came across a photo that looks like its from the 30s of the ballroom.

google it: hotel Leipzig Dresden - go to- images
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Some general shots of the recently finished Quatier VIII/2:





That ATM is just...beautiful :



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Old October 6th, 2012, 02:46 PM   #3279
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Some general shots of the recently finished Quatier VIII/2:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jTZH02uh4S...t0/s1600/1.JPG

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2bWdcV4wFw...Io/s1600/3.JPG

Not too crazy about those enormous windows:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jGNn0jZpBi...vM/s1600/4.JPG
i am worried about this contact between facade and pavement. something doenst look right there... and btw, those wondows are not enormous. that is regular street window and it has good traditional proportion.
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Old October 6th, 2012, 05:01 PM   #3280
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That parking garage...

The builings look way too clean an sterile though, can't wait for them to get some dirt on them.
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