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Old March 10th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #3521
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The city of Dresden sold the Semper storefront for a higher profit. That's unbelievable!

If already August der Starke would have thought that way, Dresden would be as interesting as Castrop-Rauxel today.
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Old March 11th, 2013, 07:59 AM   #3522
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TimothyR...that is the Police Station. It was one of the few in the area that survived the bombing enough to be repaired, generally.
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Old March 11th, 2013, 08:01 AM   #3523
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I agree. Walking across the bridge towards the Hofkirche and Georgentor...it was odd, something that I've never really felt before when visiting a city. Maybe it was cause I had been following Dresden and its reconstruction online for such a long time that it was just special to finally see it firsthand. Still, that assortment of fantastic architecture really evoked some sort of emotional response.
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Old March 11th, 2013, 10:06 AM   #3524
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Indeed. Sehnsucht is so darned romantic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mxjgl4f-xg
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Old March 11th, 2013, 06:38 PM   #3525
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Old March 11th, 2013, 07:35 PM   #3526
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Based on the graphic images, it's hard to imagine that the cost difference for construction between the two options would be dramatic. The main cost in any construction of this nature is foundation work, internal structural, HVAC, elevators and electrical/plumbing. The windows and exterior finishes are not a deal-breaking budget item.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 12:55 AM   #3527
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Well, the store front will be a craftmens work. That's not cheap. But Dresden has a lot of areas where this developper can build something cheap. Nobody has to build at Neumarkt, if he wants to save a few coins.

That's why I don't understand this decision.
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Old March 12th, 2013, 04:38 AM   #3528
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Is there any general sense that an email and letter-writing campaign to the developer that pleas for the more favorable design would be useful and yeild good results?
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Old March 13th, 2013, 04:44 PM   #3529
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The city of Dresden sold the Semper storefront for a higher profit. That's unbelievable!

If already August der Starke would have thought that way, Dresden would be as interesting as Castrop-Rauxel today.
Luckily not true:
http://neumarkt-dresden.de/pdf-dateien/PM13.03.13_2.pdf
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Old March 13th, 2013, 04:48 PM   #3530
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Could look like this after all:



At least the Kulturpalast will then have disappeared from sight.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 04:59 PM   #3531
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+1000!!!

Quartier 6 looks gorgeous!
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Old March 13th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #3532
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As far as I know, only that narrow green house (inbetween the two orange ones) isn't yet confirmed to be recontructed. Still, this will look amazing!
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Old March 13th, 2013, 05:33 PM   #3533
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It could be the nicest part of the Neumarkt. The entire Neumarkt square is so vast but this particular part looks cozy and it'll be a great place to have a beer during the summer time.
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It could be the nicest part of the Neumarkt. The entire Neumarkt square is so vast but this particular part looks cozy and it'll be a great place to have a beer during the summer time.
Yes, and part of this part's overall view and appearance will be the final design/buildout for quarter VII, which will be visible as a background to this area from the Frauenkirche area.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 04:20 AM   #3535
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Could look like this after all:



At least the Kulturpalast will then have disappeared from sight.
It looks wonderful.

I remember when I first started following the rebuilding of the Frauenkirche on the internet. I think the site itself no longer exists. I recall seeing all of those wonderful photos of the old Neumarkt and I thought "Will I ever see Dresden?"
"I wonder if any of those wonderful buildings around the Fruenkirche will ever be rebuilt? Maybe not..."

And now they have - and will be!

And I did see Dresden after all.
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It looks wonderful.

I remember when I first started following the rebuilding of the Frauenkirche on the internet. I think the site itself no longer exists. I recall seeing all of those wonderful photos of the old Neumarkt and I thought "Will I ever see Dresden?"
"I wonder if any of those wonderful buildings around the Fruenkirche will ever be rebuilt? Maybe not..."

And now they have - and will be!

And I did see Dresden after all.
My first exposure to Dresden was 1987 when I got a two day pass to go behind the Iron Curtain. Dresden was my goal and the scene throughout the city was one of unbelievable destruction from the bombing 42 years previously. Buildings that made it through the bombing were in 42 years of neglect and disrepair; buildings that were new were necessary blights to serve a desperate housing purpose; and buildings blown up remained largely in the state they were left in February 1945.

My wonder was 'will Germany ever unite to fix all this?' No one thought such was possible.

My second wonder was 'how miserably sad to have lost such a great treasure...forever'.

Well, 'forever' sometimes isn't as long as we sometimes think.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 04:49 AM   #3537
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As far as I know, only that narrow green house (inbetween the two orange ones) isn't yet confirmed to be recontructed. Still, this will look amazing!
But is there any date for groundbreaking of the orange ones?
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As far as I know, only that narrow green house (inbetween the two orange ones) isn't yet confirmed to be recontructed. Still, this will look amazing!
It might be the color on my monitor, but I don't see a green house. Is it the one next to the Dinglinger Haus?
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It might be the color on my monitor, but I don't see a green house. Is it the one next to the Dinglinger Haus?
I thought so as well, but on high magnification, the 'green' house is the one at the corner of quarter VI, just opposite the facades of quarter VII. The reference to "in between the orange ones" is a visual reference (two dimentional) to one of the buildings in quarter VI and one in quarter VII.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 10:43 PM   #3540
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Wasn't that obvious? XD

Dresden's rebuilt cityscape:

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DRESDEN - Alemanha by JCassiano, on Flickr

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DRESDEN - Alemanha by JCassiano, on Flickr

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DRESDEN - Alemanha by JCassiano, on Flickr
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