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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #3601
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Could seem about right once the tiles are added.





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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #3602
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hysterically inaccurate so far...
let's wait and see.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #3603
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Hard to say, in my opinion. Judging by the width of the already installed three top windows below, the metal framework above just might accommodate the correct roof design.

We'll know before too much longer. Fingers crossed.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #3604
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Crossing fingers and hope for an good reconstruction of the roof instead of that shitty design.......
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Old April 26th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #3605
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quite impossible to tell by the steel beams what the outer treatment will look like, but have confidence. The blood, sweat, tears, and time spent getting this far was not accomplished with the agreement to sacrifice the roof. We're not going to see plastic pearls on a Prada dress.
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Old April 26th, 2013, 06:25 PM   #3606
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It's not looking good, lads:

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Old April 26th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #3607
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FYI, I drew the red lines in Photoshop, over the second photo Kampflamm posted and re-sized them on the first.

Here, I did the opposite, with more encouraging results.
However, the angle of the two photos is different (see outline of Frauenkirche), so ... who knows?

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Old April 26th, 2013, 07:07 PM   #3608
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I think it'll be ok in the end. Yes, it's hard to tell at the moment but it's possible that the roofline will respect the original. I can't see why they would jeopardise one of the landmark buildings of the reconstruction by doing otherwise.

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Old April 26th, 2013, 10:27 PM   #3609
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I think it'll be ok in the end. Yes, it's hard to tell at the moment but it's possible that the roofline will respect the original. I can't see why they would jeopardise one of the landmark buildings of the reconstruction by doing otherwise.

I wish that I could share your optimism:



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Old April 26th, 2013, 10:35 PM   #3610
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One can hope that in the future these structures will easily have their facades rebuilt in an appropriate traditional fashion.
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Old April 26th, 2013, 10:42 PM   #3611
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One can hope that in the future these structures will easily have their facades rebuilt in an appropriate traditional fashion.
Right, and none of these were surprises when they were in the final stages of completion like 31-33 Rampische. These were known modernist designs from the foundation work.

Patience. Get the wine ready for the finish and celebration at the foot of Rampische.
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Right, and none of these were surprises when they were in the final stages of completion like 31-33 Rampische. These were known modernist designs from the foundation work.
True, but my broader point is that lapses in taste are part of the formula here.

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Do you mind if I pour a Pilsner instead?
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Old April 27th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #3613
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I don't see what"s wrong with those "modern' buildings. It's monstrosities like that swiss hotel and that ugly small grey building that are .
And i just love that small building with the complet glass facade.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 12:19 PM   #3614
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FYI, I drew the red lines in Photoshop, over the second photo Kampflamm posted and re-sized them on the first.

Here, I did the opposite, with more encouraging results.
However, the angle of the two photos is different (see outline of Frauenkirche), so ... who knows?
+ differnt camera lenses!!!!!
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Old April 27th, 2013, 12:28 PM   #3615
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And i just love that small building with the complet glass facade.
Me too!

I'm just glad that Dresden is getting back its density and its old urban feeling: that won't change because of a glass façade or a blue rooftop.
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Old April 27th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #3616
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These were by no means landmark buildings though. The reason why they were replaced by modern additions can be found in their prewar blandness and to be honest I actually kind of like some of the buildings, at least the one on the left in the first picture.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 05:35 AM   #3617
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If key structures are rebuilt as closely to the originals, then whatever fills in between will be of less concern to all but the most demanding purists. But ultimately all of it is modern new construction in keeping with updated codes and building technologies. And things can certainly be amended or added later (ironwork, rusticated tiles and other elements) to enhance the character. For now it all looks very good to me.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 06:20 PM   #3618
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My first visit to Dresden will happen this month. Because of this, I've been reluctant to comment on the quality of the construction at the Neumarkt until I've seen it in person. The pictures provided here makes me think I'll be pleased with the reconstruction. There are a couple of less than lovely buildings...that green skinny glass one and the sloped roof gray thing on the south side of Quartier 8...but they are minor visual disruptions on an otherwise magnificent reconstruction. Anyone who is disappointed with what has been done in the Neumarkt needs to go back to Page #113 and look at the DDR era picture of sheep in a pen (where Quartier 1 is now) with the ruins of the Frauenkirche as a backdrop! I just wish Quartiers 6 & 7, the Hotel Stadt Rom, and the Hoym Palais were in place too. It's obvious I'll have to visit Germany again in the future...goodie!
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Agreed, I'm looking forward to Hoym Palais and Quartier III the most. That will really start to fill in the last of the 'wasteland' areas. I see they are soliciting private investment for QIII, I'm actually surprised there isnt more private funding considering the market value potential. Just look what is happening at Leipziger Platz in Berlin.

Its been 3 years since I've been to Dresden and its already looking like another city. Amazing
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My first visit to Dresden will happen this month. Because of this, I've been reluctant to comment on the quality of the construction at the Neumarkt until I've seen it in person. The pictures provided here makes me think I'll be pleased with the reconstruction. There are a couple of less than lovely buildings...that green skinny glass one and the sloped roof gray thing on the south side of Quartier 8...but they are minor visual disruptions on an otherwise magnificent reconstruction. Anyone who is disappointed with what has been done in the Neumarkt needs to go back to Page #113 and look at the DDR era picture of sheep in a pen (where Quartier 1 is now) with the ruins of the Frauenkirche as a backdrop! I just wish Quartiers 6 & 7, the Hotel Stadt Rom, and the Hoym Palais were in place too. It's obvious I'll have to visit Germany again in the future...goodie!
I was overwhelmed by the beauty, and I went several years ago. There is so much more to see now. The perfectionists will always find things to worry about. I was stunned. I hope you have a wonderful time.
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