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Old October 14th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #4121
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Strange effect. Frauenkirche definitely looks bigger at the old photo while the corner building seems pretty the same. Some kind of optical illusion? Or is it just a slight alteration of a point of view?
It seems that the old houses were much lower than the present modernist building in middle of the street, that is obstructing the view now.
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Old October 14th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #4122
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Strange effect. Frauenkirche definitely looks bigger at the old photo while the corner building seems pretty the same. Some kind of optical illusion? Or is it just a slight alteration of a point of view?
That is the difference between Full Frame and in this case it was a film, and Crop sensors :-)
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Old October 14th, 2013, 11:50 PM   #4123
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The Frauenkirche is also a little obscured by fog in the old pic, which also helps to make something appear more distant but larger.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 12:16 AM   #4124
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It seems that the old houses were much lower than the present modernist building in middle of the street, that is obstructing the view now.
I think Index is correct. The buildings along Rampische Str closer to the Frauenkirche were not all rebuilt to the specifications of the originals. They were allowed to be 1-2 floors higher with higher floor dimensions as well. As a result, these buildings obscure the fuller view of the Frauenkirche, making the church appear smaller and less dominant. That said, the closeness to the beloved image on the right is heartwarming, majestic and sensational.

SonofThomp is also right in that the focal length of standard camera lenses in common use today are a bit less than those of former times. As a result, the "wide angle" captures more of the image but the relationship among the elements is slightly non-real. Note that the top of Rampische 33 is about even with the top of the Frauenkirche in the old photo. In the new image, the top is higher which diminishes the view of the church. I suspect part of this is the focal length of the lenses.

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Old October 15th, 2013, 10:01 PM   #4125
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Gründerzeithaus Jahnstraße 1/Bahnhof Mitte, mit ersten Arbeiten am Sockel (Bilder/Stefan).









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Are they going to renovate this building? Does anyone know?
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Old October 15th, 2013, 11:37 PM   #4126
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I believe so. There is visual evidence in the photos you posted, and its mere inclusion on that blog indicates that it is a building project.
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Old October 18th, 2013, 08:34 PM   #4127
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Neumarkt/Diverse: Ausgrabungen QVI & IV/3, Rampische Straße











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Old October 18th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #4128
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In these excavations, have any remains of humans been discovered, which were victims of the February 1945 conflagration?
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Old October 18th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #4129
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I guess it was already done when the ruins of these buildings were demolished by the communists.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #4130
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Old October 19th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #4131
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Time to demolish that ugly parking garage cover...
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Old October 20th, 2013, 01:57 PM   #4132
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And the extension of the Cosel-Palais too, please! (that greyish abomination at the end of Salzgasse you can spot here)
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Yes, yes, that eyesore too please! Replace it with some lush linden trees!
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Old October 21st, 2013, 10:15 AM   #4134
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I don't mind it.
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Old October 21st, 2013, 05:41 PM   #4135
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And the extension of the Cosel-Palais too, please! (that greyish abomination at the end of Salzgasse you can spot here)
Yeah, dropping such cheap mediocrity into the mix lessens the impact of the project.
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I remind myself, now and then, of how impossible this degree of reconstruction seemed when I first became interested in Dresden in the 1980s. There is more to celebrate here than lament.
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Old October 21st, 2013, 07:59 PM   #4136
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It looks like both photographs were taken from about the same spot and from about the same angle, so it's most likely due to different lenses being used. Odd, too: the roof in the old photo looks like it leans too far right, the newer one, too far left.
I think the newer photo has been taken from a slightly lower angle
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 07:20 PM   #4137
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Reconstruction of Hotel Stadt Rom anounced!

Here the info in German -> http://www.dresden-fernsehen.de/Aktu...ginalstandort/

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Hotel Rome arises again at the original site

Hotel Rome at the Dresden Neumarkt should be rebuilt on the original site. It has on Thursday night, the city council agreed.

In a workshop process solutions were sought for the reconstruction of the past two years. For problems arising from the post-war buildings on the street Wilsdruffer and small distances to other, already rebuilt homes.
The compromise now to build the hotel at the original location, but a bit shorter. A breakthrough by Gagfah houses on the road to Wilsdruffer Moritzstraße help reestablish.
When the reconstruction begins, however, is still unclear. The city can now draw up a development plan on the basis of the decision of Thursday.


Picture of the Old Hotel Stadt Rom:



And a picture of the new one:


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Old October 22nd, 2013, 09:44 PM   #4138
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How much shorter? And what iteration of Stadt Rom are they reconstructing since some details differ from the picture?

It looks great though, glad to see Dresden hasn't settled yet when it comes to reconstructions. Years ago I read Hoffmanns Der goldne Topf in which Anselmus' love's (I've forgotten her name) highest dream is to live in a house at the Neumarkt and have breakfast in a bay window facing the square. I can see why.
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Old October 22nd, 2013, 09:52 PM   #4139
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And a picture of the new one:


Wrong visualisation.

That's how they'll solve the situation with the communist buildings (for now):

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Old October 23rd, 2013, 01:55 AM   #4140
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Fantastic news. So it seems they chose the original location of the building. I knew there was also an alternative where the building was placed in the opposite side of the street.
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