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Old October 23rd, 2013, 02:33 PM   #4141
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Quartier IV/3 - Friesengasse/ Landhausstraße

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如果希腊国民继续信阴谋论,外资救世主的,不为自己的行为负责, 他们会灭亡。

人は何かの犠牲なしに何も得ることはできない。何かを得るためには同等の代価が必要になる。それが、生活における等価交換の原則だ。その頃僕らは、それが世界の真実だと信じていた。時間は、最も貴重な資源である。だから、誰の時間もあなたは無駄にしてはいけないし、誰もが他の人の時間を無駄にしないでください。

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Old October 23rd, 2013, 03:50 PM   #4142
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What do they do with these basements? Preserve them somehow? I'm sure lots of them date to the Middle Ages.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 05:55 PM   #4143
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What do they do with these basements? Preserve them somehow? I'm sure lots of them date to the Middle Ages.
Some of the sub-basements are being preserved and restored; mostly the significant and interesting portions that can have some useful purpose. If it's just stone work and foundations, the structural engineers evaluate the integrity for use in the new buildings and if not, it is removed.

I still am wondering if any human remains are found in these excavations. It strikes me that the ruins of 1945 were not completely dug out and these sub-basements had to have served as bomb shelters.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #4144
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As you see most cellar vaults are destroyed. During rubble clearance or when the last ruins were demolished, they also punctured these vaults to pretend pores in the ground. I think by doing that they also salvaged the last human remains.
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 10:16 AM   #4145
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Are they renovating the facade of that building?
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人は何かの犠牲なしに何も得ることはできない。何かを得るためには同等の代価が必要になる。それが、生活における等価交換の原則だ。その頃僕らは、それが世界の真実だと信じていた。時間は、最も貴重な資源である。だから、誰の時間もあなたは無駄にしてはいけないし、誰もが他の人の時間を無駄にしないでください。

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Old November 2nd, 2013, 01:30 PM   #4146
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They are still working on that building.
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 02:44 PM   #4147
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After dropping the scaffolding so fast, they are now taking their sweet, sweeeeet time.
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Old November 8th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #4148
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RE: Hotel Stadt Rom

Saxon newspaper , 08 November 2013


Expensive solution at Hotel Rome

The planned passage to Wilsdruffer road costs at least a million euros . The failure of the project in mind ?

By Tobias wine

It seems to be the perfect solution for the dispute to the hotel Rome. The baroque house is rebuilt on the original site . In addition, the historical results Moritz street now ends in a cul de sac at the southern end of the Neumarkt , new. Thanks a passage through the 50 - year - houses on the road Wilsdruffer the view across the Neumarkt to the Transport Museum is again possible. In return, the city council has decided majority at its meeting three weeks ago. But now doubts about this plan are loud.

"This is not worth the hassle ," says the architect Boris Harbaum . The 38 -year-old has worked as a research assistant at the Technical University and has the feasibility of such a passage studied. Together with the Dresden office DD1 architect he campaigns for a complete demolition of the '50s apartment building and a new building, including the opening Moritzstraße to Wilsdruffer road . "That would be a neat solution of urban planning ," says Harbaum .

To the passage he is also for financial reasons. De facto would have torn down two flights of stairs for about ten meters wide passage and therefore the apartments above are rebuilt . Since the house would be broken obliquely , several bearing walls would be affected . Gagfah itself estimates that at least a million euros would be needed . The Historical Society Neumarkt Dresden ( GHND ) , which has brought the proposal to the game , anticipating costs of 1.2 to 1.5 million euros.

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" In addition, the Neumarkt not really connected with the urban transit ," says Harbaum . The Moritz road was historically the dominant road for the Neumarkt . The passage must be interpreted as a bad compromise . " The new market is like a bagpipe , the pipe was sawed ," he says. " The place is missing the opening . " In his opinion, the Moritzstraße needs a complete re-opened. With a tram line that runs through the Neumarkt Moritz on the road and past the Princes , the place could be for example animates correctly .

Receives support in part from the architect left City Council Tilo Wirtz . It refers to the construction of the passage as " not technically feasible " . The weight of the building above the doorway takes left and right are supported . Therefore, existing carriers would be strengthened consuming . " As an engineer that is a nice job , but it is simply not economical ," says Wirtz . He draws different conclusions than Harbaum . The construction area of the hotel Rome he wants to move slightly to the north to meet statutory clearance surfaces to neighboring buildings. Moritzstraße would thus narrower and will continue to end in a stalemate . Together with the SPD , the Left Group had used for this solution. For the majority it was not enough .

That the tide turns again , is quite possible. After the city council decision three weeks before the City Council must now use the Gagfah , the owner of the 50's apartment building , negotiating, whether and on what terms a passage would be possible. Gagfah last had repeatedly emphasized that this was a question of money . At the same time , the city must determine whether the owner of the neighboring Heinrich Schütz residence waives the legally guaranteed clearance surfaces . Also, this would probably need a lot of money . Only when all these issues have been resolved , the site of the city of Rome hotels could be advertised and sold. Then an investor could begin rebuilding - a project with many unknowns .

Green Party leader Thomas solver who has voted with the CDU and the citizens group for the breakthrough , however, defended the decision. "It's a compromise, but a complete demolition of homes is not negotiable for us," he says. The administration must now speak with Gagfah whether the passage was possible. "If not, we would give up a run. For us the hotel Rome priority reconstruction on the original site ," says solver. The situation is different , the chairman of the Neumarkt Society, Torsten Kulke . He understands the passage as an interim solution to later implement the complete opening of the road to the proposal of Moritz DD1Architekten . "With the passage we obstruct us anything," he says. "The next generation can decide whether they want to have the complete opening then . " The compromise now found but there is the ability to quickly get a solution. "It is important that there is no standstill at the Hotel Rome. "

Architect Boris Harbaum hoping meanwhile that the debate around the hotel and the city of Rome Moritzstraße is once again led from the front. "We should not let ourselves be guided by stress ," he says. Urban planning is a long- term project - even if going for the best solution for 30 to 40 years into the country.
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I think Mr. Harbaum is right. His long term vision would remove the Wilsdorfer row of ugliness and create a more accurate and useful Mortitz strasse.

The danger with his idea is that the city may be too tired of yet another idea and simply throw up their hands in frustration.
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Old November 9th, 2013, 05:29 PM   #4150
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I´d be patient. If Dresden has waited all these years till seeing the old town decently recostructed/restored, I don´t think they´ll mind waiting a few years more.
And anyway, by now it already is one of Germany´s most touristic cities, so...

But I´m a follower of this thread (and the Leipzig thread too, there´s also quite some work going on there).

In some years, Saxony´s two main cities will be among Germany´s greatest again. They almost are by now.
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Old November 11th, 2013, 05:00 PM   #4151
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Could you provide a link to the Leipzig thread?

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Old November 12th, 2013, 03:09 PM   #4152
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He could be referring to this photo thread of Leipzig: LEIPZIG | Boomtown of East Germany

Or this one: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=922540


Or simply that project thread of the German forum (Leipzig communities at APH and DAF forum are way larger): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1093299
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LEIPZIG

Very nice. I passed through in 1991, stopping for a few hours in the stadtmitte. I remember on the way out, we drove past rows of grungy Gründerzeit buildings. Grungy no more! The place looks great.
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Old November 13th, 2013, 04:10 PM   #4154
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Archäologische Grabungen Landhausstraße/Friesengasse | Quartier IV/3













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What a great view! Too bad the new construction will lessen its aesthetic appeal.
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Very nice. I passed through in 1991, stopping for a few hours in the stadtmitte. I remember on the way out, we drove past rows of grungy Gründerzeit buildings. Grungy no more! The place looks great.
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I will visit Dresden in one week
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