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Old December 28th, 2013, 10:07 AM   #4301
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Rathaus Dresden - Ergebnisse des ersten Sanierungsabschnitt



















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Old December 29th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #4302
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Every year, with the ongoing reconstruction of Dresden's Altstadt (old city centre), Christmas gets a little more beautiful and magical.

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Old December 29th, 2013, 05:41 PM   #4303
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Old December 29th, 2013, 06:30 PM   #4304
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It's so great to see the streets of Dresden filled with people. Reminds me of other, older, times.
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Old December 29th, 2013, 09:02 PM   #4305
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I'll be honest, I don't think this is a good idea. At least not in this part of Dresden. The rebuilding of this market is surely dividing people with a love of architecture. I myself have mixed feelings just from an aesthetic point of view.
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Old December 29th, 2013, 09:11 PM   #4306
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It might be just your perception, that the projects get worse (there's also a lot of talk and pictures of the ugly Kulturpalast in here recently.) Actually, the rate of faithful reconstructions got higher in recent years, compared to the beginning of the whole Neumarkt project. The modern additions now mostly integrate better as well, imho.
And you musn't forget, that Quarter VI and Quarter VII, which are next in line, will probably be some of the most beautiful quarters, with the highest recontruction rate to date:








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Old December 30th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #4307
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The question is whether the above statement says that both Dresden and Berlin should have been more faithfully reconstructed - or if keepthepast means what you responded to.
Thanks for letting me clarify. I meant that both cities had near-barren land on which they could have faithfully rebuilt the former buildings and recreated what existed pre WWII. Rarely does a city have such an "opportunity" to not only rebuild but improve as needed. Both cities seemed to have missed that golden opportunity which now, given the new structures in place, will be very difficult, if even possible for 100+ years, to fix.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 12:11 PM   #4308
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Wrong quote, too bad one can´t delete posts alltogether.

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Old December 31st, 2013, 12:40 PM   #4309
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It was definitely easier to implement Grids in America due to the fact that the country was measured before the cities were built. Therefore, there are many griddy places, whereas European cities did almost always exist before accurate maps were drawn(this happened mostly in the 18th and 19th century)
That is right, but not all.

European places grew ORGANICALLY over hundreds of years. That is, settlements before humanity multiplied were initially randomly located (or location based on random occurence of some favorable natural habitat). In germany, mostly within forests where no visual sense of location relative to other settlements were possible.

When these settlements grew into villages and towns, paths traversed were oft simply broadened and bettered into roads as they were allready laying. The utility of paths decided which were more used and hence beterred. In this, there was an automatic regulation of the manner in which existing places were connected.

You can compare this to blood vessels in the body, were no blood vessel ist straight or grid-like, yet were all parts of the body are optimally served.

As to the inside the towns and cities themselves something similar took place. Villages grew to towns and some into cities. The infrastructural layout of the village oft made out the template of the future road net of the centermost part of the town even as it grew. To the original villages, consiting mostly of a cluster of farms, straight lines granted no functional favour. paths and buildings were based on how they fit the pre-existing environment of nature and culture.

In fact, this non-linearity is exactly what gives so many european towns and cities their peculiar charm.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 10:15 PM   #4310
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Old January 2nd, 2014, 11:24 PM   #4311
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interesting to see here also and coat of arms of Lithuania
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Old January 2nd, 2014, 11:55 PM   #4312
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Thats the reason why this cantata exists. It was performed first in 1734 to honour the election of Kurfürst (Elector) Friedrich August II. of Saxony to the King of Poland and Grand duke of Lithuania one year ago. In this function he is known as August III.
The large coat of arms is from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The smaller one stands for the Electorate (Kurfürstentum) of Saxony. Left side: Crossed swords for the function of the saxon electors as Reichserzmarschall (latin: Archimarescallus) of the Empire. Right side: Coat of arms of the family of Wettin. Taken from the Ascanians when they became electors of Saxony.
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 06:19 AM   #4313
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Very cool, where is this? It doesn't look familiar

[QUOTE=Tiaren;110090556]Every year, with the ongoing reconstruction of Dresden's Altstadt (old city centre), Christmas gets a little more beautiful and magical.


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Old January 3rd, 2014, 12:55 PM   #4314
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That's the Georgentor of Dresden's castle, linking Schloßstraße with Schloßplatz.

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Old January 3rd, 2014, 04:51 PM   #4315
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That's the Georgentor of Dresden's castle, linking Schloßstraße with Schloßplatz.
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Fantastic, I guess I never noticed the details up close before - Thanks!
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 05:16 PM   #4316
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Completely offtopic, but I just googled Banff, Alberta...and I'd immediately move there! Such a lovely town and such incredible surroundings. O:

To get back to topic, how about some pics of the British Hotel, which imho is the most beautiful reconstruction of the Neumarkt area to date, but get's hardly any attention:









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Old January 3rd, 2014, 07:12 PM   #4317
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Fantastic, I guess I never noticed the details up close before - Thanks!
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Old January 3rd, 2014, 11:39 PM   #4318
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Completely offtopic, but I just googled Banff, Alberta...and I'd immediately move there! Such a lovely town and such incredible surroundings. O:
Thanks! Its a special place - although Banff inherited its beauty, where as Dresden created beauty through design, art, history and culture which is why I find it such an interesting place.

The town of Banff itself is limited to around 12,000 people. Because its in a National Park, you cant live there unless you work in the area. I'm actually back in Calgary now.

Back to Dresden - does anyone know if anything is going to happen to the Herzogin Garten (Orangerie)?
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Old January 4th, 2014, 02:20 AM   #4319
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It's happening already! This. Not a lot of details yet though.

You can follow the project, in german, here.
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