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Old January 4th, 2014, 04:55 PM   #4321
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It's happening already! This. Not a lot of details yet though.

You can follow the project, in german, here.
Nice info! However for not german speakers is difficult to know, what is going here.

It seems that there is a little bit of historic restoration.

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But I'm not sure if this is all and the rest of the project is only to construct a park with new apartments around:



Someone can bring us some light here? Maybe an explanation of 2 or 3 lines will be enough!
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Old January 9th, 2014, 08:03 PM   #4322
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Nice info! However for not german speakers is difficult to know, what is going here.
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Someone can bring us some light here? Maybe an explanation of 2 or 3 lines will be enough!
I'm neither from Dresden nor German, but as far as I understand it's a residential project in which a part of a derelict historical building (called "Orangerie") is being integrated. The project is called Herzogin Garten, which translates as Duchess' Garden.
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Old January 9th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #4323
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人は何かの犠牲なしに何も得ることはできない。何かを得るためには同等の代価が必要になる。それが、生活における等価交換の原則だ。その頃僕らは、それが世界の真実だと信じていた。時間は、最も貴重な資源である。だから、誰の時間もあなたは無駄にしてはいけないし、誰もが他の人の時間を無駄にしないでください。

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Old January 9th, 2014, 11:58 PM   #4324
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Any before-pics of Quartier VI?
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Old January 10th, 2014, 12:04 AM   #4325
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Old January 11th, 2014, 06:23 AM   #4326
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Are there any websites or whatever to show of the relics theyve dug up in the basements?
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Old January 12th, 2014, 05:52 PM   #4327
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人は何かの犠牲なしに何も得ることはできない。何かを得るためには同等の代価が必要になる。それが、生活における等価交換の原則だ。その頃僕らは、それが世界の真実だと信じていた。時間は、最も貴重な資源である。だから、誰の時間もあなたは無駄にしてはいけないし、誰もが他の人の時間を無駄にしないでください。

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Old January 13th, 2014, 04:57 PM   #4328
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This is in the Neustadt area. One of the most complete blocks of original buildings and they're filling in an empty space with a totally conflicting, modernist mistake. Once again, the opportunity to do the right thing has been squandered, and we have to endure decades of this atrocity on a street that could have been near perfect. Shameless.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 05:43 PM   #4329
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This is in the Neustadt area. One of the most complete blocks of original buildings and they're filling in an empty space with a totally conflicting, modernist mistake. Once again, the opportunity to do the right thing has been squandered, and we have to endure decades of this atrocity on a street that could have been near perfect. Shameless.
Yep. Someone stepped on the rake--again.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 09:57 PM   #4330
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人は何かの犠牲なしに何も得ることはできない。何かを得るためには同等の代価が必要になる。それが、生活における等価交換の原則だ。その頃僕らは、それが世界の真実だと信じていた。時間は、最も貴重な資源である。だから、誰の時間もあなたは無駄にしてはいけないし、誰もが他の人の時間を無駄にしないでください。

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Old January 13th, 2014, 09:59 PM   #4331
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:01 AM   #4332
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This is in the Neustadt area. One of the most complete blocks of original buildings and they're filling in an empty space with a totally conflicting, modernist mistake. Once again, the opportunity to do the right thing has been squandered, and we have to endure decades of this atrocity on a street that could have been near perfect. Shameless.
Well, if you look closer, this is not the first modernist mistake there.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 02:42 PM   #4333
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Old January 15th, 2014, 01:31 AM   #4334
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All of these idiots pushing fore modernist bullshit in Dresden should be drawn and quartered in the streets. Nobody wants your modern bs, kill yourself please and save Dresden from your moronic mistakes. The modern stuff looks like garbage, seriously what are these freaking developers thinking? It wouldnt even be hard or cost anything more to build something that fits in with the historic surroundings. So stupid and shameful. I think these architects or developers think its all cool and edgy to put this modern schlock bs in with historic surroundings. No its not cool nor edgy, and if you win awards for your modern bs work than those award nominators should also be drawn and quartered. I could slap together one of those horrible mistakes in sketchup in about 5 minutes, it takes no talent or anything to design any of these modernist crap buildings. They are dropping the ball hard, and I doubt anyone in their right mind who sees these eyesores thinks its a good idea. Only the developers think people like it. Screw them. It makes me so mad.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 07:11 AM   #4335
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Old January 15th, 2014, 10:07 AM   #4336
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All of these idiots pushing fore modernist bullshit in Dresden should be drawn and quartered in the streets. Nobody wants your modern bs, kill yourself please and save Dresden from your moronic mistakes. The modern stuff looks like garbage, seriously what are these freaking developers thinking? It wouldnt even be hard or cost anything more to build something that fits in with the historic surroundings. So stupid and shameful. I think these architects or developers think its all cool and edgy to put this modern schlock bs in with historic surroundings. No its not cool nor edgy, and if you win awards for your modern bs work than those award nominators should also be drawn and quartered. I could slap together one of those horrible mistakes in sketchup in about 5 minutes, it takes no talent or anything to design any of these modernist crap buildings. They are dropping the ball hard, and I doubt anyone in their right mind who sees these eyesores thinks its a good idea. Only the developers think people like it. Screw them. It makes me so mad.
I agree but modern architects and city-planners do this all over the world. The mantra is "we must move on" "open to ideas" bla-bla. I have myself visited over a 100 cities across europe and see spoilers everywhere. Ever seen the terrible spoiler (brown building) in Vilnius near the old marked?
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Old January 15th, 2014, 04:50 PM   #4337
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All of these idiots pushing fore modernist bullshit in Dresden should be drawn and quartered in the streets. Nobody wants your modern bs, kill yourself please and save Dresden from your moronic mistakes. The modern stuff looks like garbage, seriously what are these freaking developers thinking? It wouldnt even be hard or cost anything more to build something that fits in with the historic surroundings. So stupid and shameful. I think these architects or developers think its all cool and edgy to put this modern schlock bs in with historic surroundings. No its not cool nor edgy, and if you win awards for your modern bs work than those award nominators should also be drawn and quartered. I could slap together one of those horrible mistakes in sketchup in about 5 minutes, it takes no talent or anything to design any of these modernist crap buildings. They are dropping the ball hard, and I doubt anyone in their right mind who sees these eyesores thinks its a good idea. Only the developers think people like it. Screw them. It makes me so mad.
Drawn and quartered may be too mild a punishment. Not only is there a crime for building the offenses in the first place, but having done so, the long term (50-100+ years) misery it creates is a crime against humanity.

There are many to blame for this decades long assault on architecture and human history. As mentioned before, investors nearly always cut corners and want to build as cheaply as possible. The architects' club compete with each other on edginess, shock value, and the 'never been done' measure (much like the entertainment industry). City officials and planning committees that approve the designs (if even required for approval) are politicians who get donations from developers. And the city planners are usually architects. The cycle is a death spiral and a self-generating, repeating end result.

It's forums like this and individuals/groups that take the initiative to force the political agenda to a different end that will make a difference. I doubt architects will ever see the light; just as Miley Cyrus will never take on a persona like Mother Teresa. Getting local officials, however, to accept/adopt and understand the historic and long term value of well designed and historically integrated buildings is perhaps the only option for success.
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