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Old March 19th, 2014, 01:50 AM   #4381
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that's somewhat of a shame... pollution is bad of course, and there's still the issue of acid forming in clouds and dissolving materials, but a little bit of natural 'grime' outlining the shapes can really add contrast to a building and give it that pleasing texture that older structures have.

on an urelated note, does anyone know of any landscaping plans? the platz could really benefit from a few trees
Good point about the texture and 'grime' which I like to think of as seasoning. Fact is, that even the best, long lasting materials sometimes surprise the manufacturers. Look at the United/Lufthansa terminal at O'Hare Airport in Chicago. Helmut Jahn thought it would have a clean silver appearance forever, and it has looked like a worn out frying pan for years.

There weren't many trees within the central areas of the Neumarkt. No room really. Now with more set backs and space, there may be some. For example, at the end of Rampische Strasse, a tree is now planted that never was there pre 1945.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 02:18 AM   #4382
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on an urelated note, does anyone know of any landscaping plans? the platz could really benefit from a few trees
Some trees will, eventually, be planted in front of Quartier VI.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 10:23 PM   #4383
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Old April 16th, 2014, 08:19 PM   #4384
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No news in 15 days?
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Old April 17th, 2014, 01:02 AM   #4385
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Well, except for excavation works, there isn't too much going on right now.

Guess that in about a month we'll get see more interesting activity.
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Old April 18th, 2014, 04:41 PM   #4386
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Well, except for excavation works, there isn't too much going on right now.

Guess that in about a month we'll get see more interesting activity.
cant wait !
is tehere anyone professionaly involved in this activity on this forum? im involved in similar kind of work in my country, just on much smaller scale...
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 11:27 AM   #4387
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 02:01 PM   #4388
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But how is it possible that the plot is empty? No basement?
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Old April 24th, 2014, 01:17 AM   #4389
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But how is it possible that the plot is empty? No basement?
Perhaps the area had to be 'cleaned' (too many bombs...).

Or maybe it´s just that that´s an area that they hoped to develop during the GDR, but nothing happened in the end (lack of money or something).

Or both.

Btw, which building is supposed to be built in that plot, a new one, or a reconstruction?
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Btw, which building is supposed to be built in that plot, a new one, or a reconstruction?
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Old April 30th, 2014, 09:47 PM   #4391
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Gosh it is terrible! Why do they mix modern and old? It is like painting graffiti on the picture of Mona Lisa or putting techno drums on Miles Davis. Keep the old architecture in the centre and build modern outside the city centre.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 12:04 AM   #4392
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Old May 1st, 2014, 12:18 AM   #4393
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I rather like it, the new buildings conform to the structure of the old town, have colours that fit well, are symmetrical and the roofs are slanted. Not everything has to be historical correct or a copy of what once was. Cities grow, buildings change, in most cities that process takes hundreds of years for a historical centre to develop. Unfortunately war and disasters sometimes interrupt that process. Dresden is now rebuilding this beautiful historical city and by adding more recent buildings into the urban pattern, it looks like a normal European city.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 01:12 AM   #4394
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It depends on what you call a 'normal' European city. Budapest, Prague, Rome, Paris, etc. have almost none 'modern' buildings in their center. It's not because some cities have messed up their centers (and I'm not saying that every city with modern buildings is messed up or that modern buildings are bad) that the others should follow the example.
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Old May 1st, 2014, 01:51 AM   #4395
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Couldn't agree more. The idea to integrate bland modernist buildings scattered across Neumarkt to make the look "grown" is completely bonkers. It is purely an architects' lobby move. Developers would have gone for more historically accurate designs if it wasn't for that "creative advisory council" making its stinky mark. But we can't do much about it anymore. One day we can tear the shite down then.

Luckily we'll get several more faithful reconstructions and top class quarters.
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I should have said contemporary European city, instead of normal. I am absolutely not saying that Dresden should follow bad examples, what Dresden is doing, rebuilding it old centre, is unique. And I like what they are building even if some buildings aren't considered historical.
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I should have said contemporary European city, instead of normal. I am absolutely not saying that Dresden should follow bad examples, what Dresden is doing, rebuilding it old centre, is unique. And I like what they are building even if some buildings aren't considered historical.
Fair enough, however, why must nearly every city look contemporary? And looking contemporary means international modernism which means the uniqueness of each location is diminished, if not lost all together.

I agree with you that cities grow and change, but the growth and change should occur in the expanded neighborhoods and replacements/upgrades of undesirable infrastructure, not changing the face of valuable and important historical buildings.
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Couldn't agree more. The idea to integrate bland modernist buildings scattered across Neumarkt to make the look "grown" is completely bonkers. It is purely an architects' lobby move. Developers would have gone for more historically accurate designs if it wasn't for that "creative advisory council" making its stinky mark. But we can't do much about it anymore. One day we can tear the shite down then.

Luckily we'll get several more faithful reconstructions and top class quarters.
What is the Creative Advisory Council? Are they appointed? Voted into position? Why do they have so much power?
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Fair enough, however, why must nearly every city look contemporary? And looking contemporary means international modernism which means the uniqueness of each location is diminished, if not lost all together.

I agree with you that cities grow and change, but the growth and change should occur in the expanded neighborhoods and replacements/upgrades of undesirable infrastructure, not changing the face of valuable and important historical buildings.
I didn't say that it should, that is what you make of it. I said I rather liked the new buildings within the historical pattern.
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I said I rather liked the new buildings within the historical pattern.
Like an electric guitar solo in the middle of a Baroque cantata?
A dollop of ice cream on your Radeberger Biergulasch?
An anchovy floating in your pilsner?
Need I continue?

Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it should be defensible, in a rational, if not aesthetic, sense. Some things just don't go well together. There is plenty of space in Dresden outside the Neumarkt area for modernist/post modernist architecture. A very expensive and time-consuming reconstruction project probably isn't the best setting for these "masterworks".
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