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Old July 1st, 2014, 04:01 AM   #4521
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In your opinion. Some of us can actually appreciate both old and new.
Neophilia does not control my tastes. The emperor wears no clothes. There are many new buildings today that are beautiful but that is not one of them.

Besides, that museum is not appreciating old and new anymore than if an artist jammed knives through the Mona Lisa.
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Old July 1st, 2014, 07:02 AM   #4522
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In your opinion. Some of us can actually appreciate both old and new.
Well, I actually like both chicken soup and ice cream... but not together on the same spoon
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Old July 1st, 2014, 01:25 PM   #4523
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Hi; Does anyone have information on when Quartier 6, the Hotel Stadt Rom, and the Hoym Palace will start construction?
Anyone?
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Old July 1st, 2014, 02:37 PM   #4524
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That is effing horrifying. Modernism is a plague upon humanity. Kill it with fire now please.
But that's not modernism. That's deconstructivism
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Old July 1st, 2014, 03:09 PM   #4525
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Anyone?
It is rather easy to find if you look at the previous pages of this thread.

This is one of the renders of the block, more info is to be found if you google Dresden Neumarkt Quartier IV

In my opinion it is going to be a beautiful historical block that finally encloses the Neumarkt to a city square.


Source: http://www.neumarkt-dresden.de/
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Old July 1st, 2014, 06:31 PM   #4526
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I think it looks awesome.

He did something very similar with the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto.
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Old July 1st, 2014, 08:03 PM   #4527
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The old building is nothing special, jsut a formulaic revival design with an unconvincing bit of a false front at its center top.
Liebeskind's intervention makes it a lot more interesting.
I wouldn't knock the original building; fewer than 1 percent of architects can competently design a classical building. How much talent does it take to conceive of a large metal inverted pyramid slicing through the old building? None! Libeskind is a no talent architect who hates traditional historic architecture. This "architecture" is nothing more than shock value, and once the shock wears off, the public is stuck with this hideous monstrosity. This is not architecture any more than Tracy Emin's unmade bed being called art.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:05 AM   #4528
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Well, I actually like both chicken soup and ice cream... but not together on the same spoon
You've got to try it, it tastes great
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 09:51 AM   #4529
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I wouldn't knock the original building; fewer than 1 percent of architects can competently design a classical building.

If you are speaking in the present tense, I agree.
But we're not talking about the present tense.
At the time this was built, it was a below-average piece of design; uninspired, uneventful, and lacking refinement and subtlety.
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refocus

Gentlemen please! This forum is about the Neumarkt in Dresden. I don't want to know WHAT is being built in the future in the Neumarkt but WHEN construction will start on any number of fine new buildings. Do Kampflamm or Erbse or Saxonia ever contribute to this thread any more?

With regard to that silly Liebeskind addition: The architect seems to be obsessed with these cubicle carbuncles as additions to older buildings. There's one of them here in San Francisco, although it was originally a disused power station that sits in a crowded corner and thus works better visually. The bottom line though is the one in Dresden is there and will be there for the foreseeable future. So, why get your jockstraps in a collective knot over it?
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 06:20 PM   #4531
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Do Kampflamm or Erbse or Saxonia ever contribute to this thread any more?

Well, there's not that much going on right now in terms of construction. 2015 and beyond should be more promising though...
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 06:49 PM   #4532
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The bottom line though is the one in Dresden is there and will be there for the foreseeable future. So, why get your jockstraps in a collective knot over it?

Because the large amount of Libeskind's work is a litany of this sort of fanatical expressions of contrasts and personal emotion. He's too hip for the good of most communities, and the more dissatisfaction expressed about such, perhaps the fewer contracts he'll be awarded.
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I wouldn't knock the original building; fewer than 1 percent of architects can competently design a classical building. How much talent does it take to conceive of a large metal inverted pyramid slicing through the old building? None! Libeskind is a no talent architect who hates traditional historic architecture. This "architecture" is nothing more than shock value, and once the shock wears off, the public is stuck with this hideous monstrosity. This is not architecture any more than Tracy Emin's unmade bed being called art.
I totally agree.
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If you are speaking in the present tense, I agree.
But we're not talking about the present tense.
At the time this was built, it was a below-average piece of design; uninspired, uneventful, and lacking refinement and subtlety.
Perhaps the original building was not a classical masterpiece when it was built, but adding a large inverted metal pyramid slicing through the front facade is certainly no improvement. Look at the sharp metal point; it is a totally empty metal frame. It serves no other purpose than to violate the older building's architecture.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 03:37 AM   #4535
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It is rather easy to find if you look at the previous pages of this thread.
All 226 of them?

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This is one of the renders of the block, more info is to be found if you google Dresden Neumarkt Quartier IV
IV or VI?
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 11:53 AM   #4536
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We should create some sort of index for post 1 of this thread, so we're not repeating basic information all that often.

Quartier VI is going off the ground in 2015.


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Old July 3rd, 2014, 06:50 PM   #4537
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Anyone know what stood were the Hilton stands today before the war?
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 06:55 PM   #4538
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IV or VI?
You are right its VI, my bad. But looking through this thread is really worth while if you are interested in the project. You could also use the thread search function in the upper right of the screen and look for the quarters that you are interested in, as erbse has shown with that nice map.
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Thanks Erbse and Kampflamm! I'm so eager to see the finished Neumarkt that I might sound impatient to you--not so. By the way that map is from Wikipedia, is it not? The brown parts are supposed to be the finished quartiers so they need to update the progress that's been made. When I was in Dresden last year, Quartiers II, VIII, and the part of III by the Neumarkt plaza were done (and possibly part of V too.
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Yeah, I'll probably update the Wiki map up there.
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