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Old December 20th, 2007, 10:03 PM   #441
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No country in the world will be able to recreate its own style because of the way the construction industry is organized, from material markets to invitations to tender. What's happening in Dresden is the surprising existence of some political will that is generally not shared by architects or professionals.
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Old December 20th, 2007, 11:17 PM   #442
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Indeed, the problem is not that architects or professionals don't agree with such market-driven architecture. The problem is that architects today are the same all over the world, methods are uniform, and with a click you can have all the info you want on some building anywhere on the planet. Because of this, architecture is homogenizing itself all over, and when it isn't, it's because of artifical tentatives.
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Old December 21st, 2007, 06:16 PM   #443
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So what do the regulars think about reconstructing the medieval/renaissance Town Hall of Dresden?

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Old December 22nd, 2007, 05:54 PM   #444
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Heinrich-Schütz-Residenz



Quartier VIII
has been sold to the "Baywobau" group (they're the guys who built Quartier III as well)




The areas in orange represent buildings who'll get their original facades back

It's the area between the castle and the Johanneum

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Old December 22nd, 2007, 06:36 PM   #445
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Indeed, the problem is not that architects or professionals don't agree with such market-driven architecture. The problem is that architects today are the same all over the world, methods are uniform, and with a click you can have all the info you want on some building anywhere on the planet. Because of this, architecture is homogenizing itself all over, and when it isn't, it's because of artifical tentatives.
And that's what I hate about modern architecture. If you look at older buildings you'll immediately know where they're located. Just check out this pic of Bautzen in Saxony (close to the Czech border):



You would never find buildings like that in northern or western Germany and baroque buildings in the south look different as well (while buildings on the other side of the border look quite similar...experts are obviously able to point out differences though). Nowadays modern architecture looks the same everywhere though. It makes no difference whether you're in Hamburg, Madrid, NY or Warsaw.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 08:42 AM   #446
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I am stunned by this project in Dresden! It's a shame I just found this thread after 2+ years and 20+ pages! The beauty of these buildings and scope of the whole project is so admirable. It's just beautiful.

I went to Dresden in 1992 on a school trip and remember being left with the impression of the city being very grey and depressing. Back then I felt there were ugly, grey, concrete commie blocks everywhere even in the downtown city center. There were even statues of Stalin and Lenin if I recall correctly. There was a main street, Prager Strasse I believe, that was very Soviet looking. I also remember touring the pile of rubble that was the Frauenkirche.

Now Dresden looks so fantastic!
I must return to see it again in person!
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 03:23 PM   #447
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Another nice project...Rampische Straße 29, financed by donations:







It'll be in this area:



near those beauties:

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Old December 23rd, 2007, 08:56 PM   #448
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Sorry to veer a bit off topic for a quick moment (i know this thread is about NeuMarkt), but is Prager Strasse still the ugly soviet mess it was in 92? Is it better these days?
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 08:59 PM   #449
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Still looks crappy apparently:



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Old December 23rd, 2007, 09:35 PM   #450
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No reason to blame particularly the Soviets for some architecture that is found everywhere in the World. Blame universal bad taste.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 09:48 PM   #451
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Great news about more reconstructions!
Do they plan to reconstruct the entire city center?
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 10:56 PM   #452
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Still looks crappy apparently:
LOL Looks better than I remember it though. Thanks for the quick reply.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:41 PM   #453
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And that's what I hate about modern architecture. If you look at older buildings you'll immediately know where they're located. Just check out this pic of Bautzen in Saxony (close to the Czech border):
Well, postmodern architecture tried to correct that but there is still a problem, because it is stuck in time and artificial. There are no new local architectural novelties nowadays, if you want your buildings to have character and not feel internationnal, you have to make artificial postmodern ones based on an idealistic vision of the past.

Everything new in architecture, every new technique is spread all around the world in an instant, so what choice to we have? Either characterless internationalist or artificial postmodernist architecture.
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Old December 24th, 2007, 01:50 PM   #454
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Quartier V/2 Köhlersches Haus






Heinrich-Schütz-Residenz can be seen to the left of the Köhlersches Haus

They should really tear down that place on the left



Overview of that area:









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Old December 24th, 2007, 09:43 PM   #455
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Still looks crappy apparently:


Looks third world.
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Old December 25th, 2007, 12:00 AM   #456
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I think most 3rd world countries would be happy to have paved steets like that. It just looks shitty, like so much other postwar architecture.
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Old December 25th, 2007, 12:08 AM   #457
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Looks like a medium-sized Finnish city. Remove those higher buildings + fountains and you get an average Finnish city.
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Old December 25th, 2007, 12:15 AM   #458
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A short excursion to Pirna, which is also located in Saxony.

January 05



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Apparently the torn down houses will be reconstructed:

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Old December 25th, 2007, 12:26 AM   #459
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But who will live there? The Economy of Saxony is booming but the population will fastly decrease in the next few years ...
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I really wish this would happen in my city. At one point the milesquare(downtown) was filled with second empire style buildings and structures that took much influence from the classical styles. Damn the 1960s...
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